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Published: Saturday, June 20, 2009 2:10 AM HST
•Local land for local food
• Rush Limbaugh is a danger to America
•How far the reaches

Local land for local food

Genetically modified organism opponents are divided; there is no middle ground.

One side claims genetically engineered food is safe and poses no threat to consumers, farmers or the ecosystem. They are deeply conflicted by their interest in profiting from transgenic life forms (synthetic plants created in the lab with DNA from plants, animals, and viruses).


The other side wants to maintain their right to eat pure food, avoid ingesting agricultural chemicals, as well as insure a growers right to save seed and replant huli. The lovers of whole food go out of their way to avoid genetically engineered food, and will pay a higher price for locally grown food.

When a group known as the Hawai‘i Crop Improvement Association says don’t worry, trust us — don’t swallow it. It is no secret they are a lobbying group made up of Monsanto, Dow, Syngenta and DuPont/Pioneer.

Check it out at hciaonline.com. Their idea of crop improvement is making a crop that uses more of their chemicals. The industrial chemical ag model is so 20th Century.

Humanity should always reach for the stars of new invention but within the realms of balance. It is dangerous when science fails to be impartial, when profit outweighs precaution. Science used to be above politics.

Some concerned scientists are waving red flags of caution to say, “We believe pesticide producing plants and their pollen are harming non target insects, we think high fructose corn syrup interacts differently with our blood sugar chemistry, we are concerned about the chemical cocktails sprayed onto herbicide resistant soybean, we are exposing children to hormonal disrupting chemicals, we are losing biodiversity among our commodity food crops, what we do on our land affects our air, drinking water, fish and ocean.”

Historically, observation of truth goes like this: first it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed and finally it is accepted as self-evident.


It is not unusual for a technology like GMO to make giant leaps in science and outpace regulation and moral ethics. However, regulations and oversight done poorly are worse than no oversight at all, because it leads to a false sense of security.

Local food production is a metaphor for balance.

 

Jeri Di Pietro, Koloa


Rush Limbaugh is a danger to America

The other day I happened upon Rush Lmbaugh’s talk radio show — I am not a Rush fan but was interested in listening to what he had to say.

The whole show is basically Obama bashing, Rush going on to say that Obama needs to take responsibility and quit blaming everything on the previous administration.

No matter what Obama does, Rush plays the devil’s advocate. Rush does this for ratings, I actually believe Rush doesn’t believe half of what he says.

Rush is a showman in there for ratings and a big paycheck, but many Americans believe what Rush makes up on the radio for ratings. Rush is an entertainer, and although I disagree with almost everything he says, he has a charismatic manner about his talk that is fun and easy to listen to.

During these days of recession, the country needs to stand together as one, and Rush needs to stop his propaganda before he destroys America.

 

James “Kimo” Rosen, Kapa‘a

How far the reaches

I would like to extend my heart-felt gratitude to a stranger who helped me when in need. Like so many people on Kaua‘i, these days I have been forced to budget even tighter and in some uncomfortable ways.

Recently, while running errands, a person was kind enough to mention a problem with my power steering. Due to low power steering oil, my car’s steering was making some obvious noise.

I expressed my thanks, and mentioned that I am experiencing some “financial challenges” and hoped to take care of the auto maintenance very soon. This person’s genuine concern was apparent in his words and expression.

When I returned to my car, this kind person approached me, handing me a bit of money and expressed that he would like to offer this bit of help so that I could purchase power steering oil. I would come to find this person’s name to be Howard.

Thank you, Howard, for lightening my burden. St. Francis de Sales wrote, “It is said that those who walk on flat ground need not hold hands. But we who climb a steep and slippery road must hold onto each other to make our way securely.”

My deepest heart-felt gratitude to you for reaching out to me — a person you did not know.

In conversation, it was expressed that Howard had served many years as a police officer — now retired. My family lost my fiance in the line of duty as a firefighter several years ago. This officer’s kindness — extended to this stranger — I am certain reached to a “brother” who has gone before.

Power steering oil was purchased; power steering good as new; remaining oil passed onto another person in need of power steering oil and who I just happened across. How far the reaches of one compassionate gesture.

Deborah Morel, Koloa



 
 

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drdrillandfill wrote on Jun 20, 2009 5:05 AM:

" Actually, Mr. Rosen, I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh, but I am really sick of hearing the Obama administration blame everything on the previous administration. And then to top it off, Obama signs a completely irresponsible budget which just digs the hole deeper. No, what is needed is a leader who is not afraid to make some very hard decisions, and Obama is definitely NOT the man. Unfortunately, I'm not sure who this man would be in Washington. The bottom line is that Rush Limbaugh is not a danger to this country--that distinction belongs to nearly every politician we have in Washington. "

interesting wrote on Jun 20, 2009 8:23 AM:

" one of the more calm anti GMO letters

but overall its actually a good thing that the anti GMO people on island have been largely ineffective to date. and it is their own fault in my view, as they often drown the few valid points they could make with baseless quasi hysteria

arguably, in terms of being open minded and reasonable, the kauai anti GMO people have far more in common with religious-right anti stem cell research people than they do with rational innovators guided by the scientific method "

JKDownDaMiddle wrote on Jun 20, 2009 8:25 AM:

" Eh Kimo,
The sky is falling...the sky is falling, and Rush Limbaugh is to blame.. Oh geeze lousie Kimo! So are you saying that the crybaby Lefty radio talk jocks on NPR and elsewhere are 100% correct when they blame "ALL" the nation's woes on Bush #2?!. I used to listen to Rush....with large helpings of 'salt'... he's just an entertainer! It's all about ratings and selling commercials!!
Remeber, this is still the U.S. of A. and you do have rights! If you don't like what he has to say, you have the 'right' to CHANGE THE STATION! Freedom of the press baby...or have you forgotten that we're not a socialist regime...yet!
Look at it in another light, consider yourself lucky to have participated in leftist research into rightwing extremism in America. Here's an idea...maybe you can start your own lefty radio talk show. That would be cool... then I could switch you off!
This is one of your more off base comments in quite awhile.
As they say in the public schools on the mainland, Hasta la Vista! "

kalapaki wrote on Jun 20, 2009 8:50 AM:

" Put a sock in it, "Kimo". If you don't like Rush, then just change the channel to a liberal radio host. What's that you say? There are no liberal hosts? Well, maybe that's because no one wants to listen to them. Besides, when Bush was president the mainstream media wasted no opportunity in criticizing his every move, and I'm not talking about radio. From Katie Couric to Tom Brokaw to Oprah to you name it, they bashed everything he did. And now you're whining because Rush does the same to Obama. At least Rush has the honesty to come out and say he's a conservative. The aforementioned libs cloaked their criticism of Bush as "objective news-reporting". What a crock. Grow up, liberals! What was good for Bush is now good for Obama. "

mrkalbo wrote on Jun 20, 2009 8:53 AM:

" Eh Kimo, what about freedom of speech? This is still America isn't it? "

yelad wrote on Jun 20, 2009 8:54 AM:

" C'mon Kimo...Rush is a non factor. Nobody with a brain takes that guy seriously. On the flip side the Libs have their clowns as well. Ever heard of Howard Dean? "

kuaina wrote on Jun 20, 2009 10:31 AM:

" Kimo, you must be a mind reader because you listen to Rush for a couple of hours and you know exactly what he is thinking. Your's is the typical reaction of the one time listener. You must believe that Rush Fans are like sponges who just sop up whatever he says. On the contrary most Rush listeners are critical thinkers who listen to Rush because our views are not represented in the main stream press. The disscussions that occur daily on the show are more in depth than any other news source. If you disagree with Rush as a caller you automatically go to the head of the line. As a listener, what more could you ask if you are interested in live political discourse?Rush is not dangerous to America, but what really is dangerous for America is that some people believe that this discourse should not take place. "

jr1956 wrote on Jun 20, 2009 11:02 AM:

" I find most people who don't like Obama are racists, and like most racists will not admit they are racists, since nobody wants to be labeled a racist... I am sure a few more of you will reply to this.... Kimo Rosen "

kapu wrote on Jun 20, 2009 12:39 PM:

" Uh, "Kimo", the only problem with your comment is that it's completely wrong, in fact the POLAR OPPOSITE of fact. Rush is RIGHT, still!

You need to join in with your fellow libtards who are starting to admit you're the silliest people on the planet and just got DUPED AGAIN by your "own" party.

By the time ENOUGH of you wake up, you're right, our country may indeed be gone.

Rush will go down in history as one of the few voices of logic and reason being heard at the end, if we don't outvote you lunatics the next two times.

Quit hiding in Hawaii behind a self-applied "cool" nickname. Grasp your outlander roots firmly and try to get the government to work the way the Founding Fathers intended. They were brilliant men and your ilk is disassembling the greatest nation ever created on Earth.

The only reason you're complaining about Rush is you haven't heard of Glen Beck yet.

Auwe!! "

kapu wrote on Jun 20, 2009 12:50 PM:

" " C'mon Kimo...Rush is a non factor. Nobody with a brain takes that guy seriously. On the flip side the Libs have their clowns as well. Ever heard of Howard Dean? "



Sorry, I have a degree in political science, an IQ of over 140 and can hold my own with any Mensa groupie out there.

I wouldn't let Howard Dean mow my yard any quicker than I would Obamaramadingdong, but I'd give Rush the keys to the place anytime he wants them. And the scariest thought yet, Biden's worse than Dean-truest Kevlar a Pres. could ask for.

The inmates are truly in control of the asylum but that only assures Obama should have OTP tattooed on his forehead now, stands for One Trick Pony.

The degree to which the American liberal left and some segment of independents have been BAIT N SWITCHED by this MOB (pun intended) is unprecendented in history and they won't see power again in this country, if it survives, for generations. Obama's the final nail in the coffin after all the BUFFOONS the Democrat party has given us over the years. Heck it's even a parade of some of those past "stars" in his own administration, just to remind us how nutty they were (are).

These are sad and shameful days for America, I hope she can overcome them. "

kuaina wrote on Jun 20, 2009 3:38 PM:

" What's up Kimo? Can't win the argument so you label your opponents racist? What I find ironic is that how liberals so flippantly make such accusations. Maybe it's that you are a racist yourself? "

gramsof1 wrote on Jun 20, 2009 5:31 PM:

" RE: "I find most people who don't like Obama are racists, and like most racists will not admit they are racists, since nobody wants to be labeled a racist... I am sure a few more of you will reply to this.... Kimo Rosen "

Well Kimo, I do not dislike Obama. I just don't trust him. I am not a racist. A good portion of my friends asre of non-white heritage. Heck I have two nephews in Hawaii. No they are not true Hawaiian but they are locals and are not white. That makes my nieces and nephews bi-racial. I have a beautiful "Thai niece there in Hawaii too and I love her so much.. One of my granddaughters best friends is black and we love her too.
Race does not play a part in our lives. People are people and we judge people by the cointent of their character, not the color of their skin, like Martin Luther King asked us to do. Character matters and I think Pres. Obama is sorely lacking in that area.

"Ronald Reagan said, "A country that is big enough to give you everything, is big enough to take everything you have away too."

MJ "

PeteAntonson wrote on Jun 20, 2009 5:48 PM:

" Jim, you sure lit a fire under the yahoos. Gee it's tough enough being outnumbered 7 to 1 on Kauai without having to read your letter.
Here's a typical Rush opener: "Mr. Oooobamaaa said today that he would, quote, support the school lunch programs, unquote." "Folks, let me tell you what that really means; what that really means, folks, is that he's going to shoot your Mother...that's right, he's not only going to shoot your Mother, he's going to shoot her in the back...while you're watching. Now, folks...I warned you during the election that he was going to shoot your Mother and folks, we've proven before, on this show, that all the Mothershooters are in the Democrat (Sic) Party...(and on and on for 3 hours - school lunches only mentioned in the 1st sentence)
What's really funny is that one of the "dittoheads" (a truer nickname has never been uttered) claims critical thinking. "Dittohead" is the antonym for "critical thinker."
Regards, Pete "

jr1956 wrote on Jun 20, 2009 7:01 PM:

" Kapu, Glenn Beck is another story, I watch fox news for the entertainment and comedy. The Glenn Becks, Sean Hannity's and Bill Oreilly's, they along with Rush are a huge problem in helping Rush destroy the country by preaching to people that actually believe their propaganda.

I try to rely on MSMBC for my political news! Love you guys, Kimo :D) "

ssdavies wrote on Jun 20, 2009 10:48 PM:

" Kimo, shame on you. To say that most people that do not like Obama are racists...shame on you!! I used to like reading your letters and althou I didn't agree with everything you had to say, I still thought they were thought provoking and intellegent letters, until this response...
I don't like Obama, I don't trust him. I don't listen to Rush either, my choice. I don't blame Obama for all the ills in the world nor do I blame Bush for all the ills in the world.
But you dare to call me a RACIST because I don't like Obama....I guess you are lacking in intellegence after all....shame on you.
I am only 18 years old, but even I know better than to make a rude and stupid comment like you did.....
You have just lost any respect I may have had for you.....
I agree with the rest of them now, time for you to put away your pen
SHAME SHAME SHAME.... "

right is right wrote on Jun 20, 2009 11:20 PM:

" RE: jr1956

" I find most people who don't like Obama are racists, and like most racists will not admit they are racists, since nobody wants to be labeled a racist...

This is the most ridiculous statement ever! A politician can be liked or NOT liked strictly for their agendas. Skin color has nothing to do with it ! This country has come a long way and I like to think that Obama got elected for his ideas and way of thinking (how ever misguided and dangerous to this country they may be !) and not solely on the color of his skin ! WAKE UP jr1956 this is not a race thing its a right thing ! "

jr1956 wrote on Jun 21, 2009 10:19 AM:

" Psychology 101 states that only the guilty speak, the first child to respond to who threw the spit ball is in most cases the guilty one. I rest my case.. Aloha Kimo "

Miliaulani wrote on Jun 21, 2009 10:48 AM:

" Interesting,
You don't address the point that I and many others like me, have a right to eat pure, unaltered food, as nature intended. When GMO Corporations can't guarantee that their crops will not contaminate non-GMO crops, than I take issue with that. GMO proponents rights don't take precedence over mine. As a mother and grandmother, it is my kuleana to feed healthy food to my family and corporate America has no business dictating that to me. Bottom line is this, GMO Corporations have not proven that their food crops are safe and it is their responsibility to do so. In fact, research done by their own scientists have raised very serious safety concerns. These scientists were fired and/or silenced as a result of speaking out about their findings. Monsanto controls the FDA and that is the reason why GMO's are in the food supply without labeling. The only reason GMO companies have been effective on Kauai is because the powers that be in Hawaii have given them the green light and the general public is ignorant of the issue or have been bought and sold by the propaganda that these companies promote when they come into a community. The Westside of Kauai is vulnerable with the end of sugar and a lack of employment. All this prime ag land is opening up now and GMO companies are moving in to fill that void. All we see are rows and rows of gmo corn that gets shipped off island instead of growing food for the local community. As for employment opportunity, there appears to be a lot more immigrant workers on the westside lately...what's up with that? "

JKDownDaMiddle wrote on Jun 21, 2009 1:29 PM:

" Jim, the proof's in the pudding and you have dished up the biggest helping of "fool's pudding" pudding I have ever read. then you glopped on some more with your second comment. Where'd you get the recipe....most be from Pete because his comment lists many of the same ingrediants......large helping of unadulterated nonsense, stirred "liberally" and add a dash of socialism,irresponsibility, and served an a bed of blatent stupidity!

Oh, my kids are Hapa....guess that makes me a racest even though I voted for Mr. Obama ( out of hope and desperation) I now think I made a mistake....I need a bail out! "

interesting wrote on Jun 21, 2009 6:40 PM:

" ------ "When GMO Corporations can't guarantee that their crops will not contaminate non-GMO crops"

for cross-pollination to be an "issue" (or more of one, to the extent it is a "real" one now), you first have to show that the GM plant is causing some "harm" (to the environment or humans)

but yes i would not expect to see many guarantees from them in that area either

as to "GMO Corporations have not proven that their food crops are safe"....it is sufficiently safe from human consumption, has been for a while, tons of GM food has been consumed by people for decades without problems

"research done by their own scientists have raised very serious safety concerns".... and i could show you research that the cell phone microwaves could give you cancer, as could materials on plastics, power lines, etc

"Monsanto controls the FDA and that is the reason why GMO's are in the food supply without labeling. The only reason GMO companies have been effective on Kauai is because the powers that be in Hawaii have given them the green light and the general public is ignorant of the issue or have been bought and sold by the propaganda that these companies promote when they come into a community."

if you really believe all that.....i doubt i can help you

"All we see are rows and rows of gmo corn that gets shipped off island instead of growing food for the local community"

-- b/ there is a paying, functioning market for those seeds, fyi. and nobody is stopping anybody from growing other food here for local consumption

"As for employment opportunity, there appears to be a lot more immigrant workers on the westside lately...what's up with that? "

-- the US is not a closed, isolationist society and has many immigrants...that is "what's up" with that "

PeteAntonson wrote on Jun 22, 2009 6:50 AM:

" So let me get this straight JKnotfromthemiddle, you're busy defending megadittoheads and calling others fools because the President didn't reverse the rotation of the Earth in just 6 months? If you're not a fool, then you're at least fool-ish. You can't predict the future any more than Rush (to Judgement) Limbaugh can. "

suzannewoodruff wrote on Jun 22, 2009 7:56 AM:

" RE; KIMO ROSEN. The concept of freedom of the press applies only to people I agree with. People who have the gall to see thinks differently
are "dangerous." was the non-stop Bush bashing of the prior eight years bad for America. All depends on where you are sitting. Disagreeing with any commentator or politician is the American way "

lawaibob wrote on Jun 22, 2009 10:40 AM:

" Rush is a bozo, nuff said. I nearly spit my coffee out reading the one guy's comment about "Rush listeners are critical thinkers"

GOOD ONE! LMFAO!!

Ok Mr. Critical Thinker Guy: How is it that if Fox News is the #1 source for news in the country (according to ratings) that the Liberal Media Bias that Rush and his goons rant about all so often is so prevalent in the "Mainstream Media"?

Also, Mr Critical Thinker Guy, isn't one of the basic rules of critical thinking "consider the source"? So you consider drug addicts good sources? "

sweet17 wrote on Jun 22, 2009 10:50 AM:

" Kimo...you DO have the right NOT to listen to what you DON'T want to hear. Pathetic excuse to write to the newspaper. You really do need a retirement job! Example: I'm not religious, so therefore I don't go to church and I don't listen to people preaching to me and I don't listen to church radio. How simple ya? It really is THAT SIMPLE to do. "

G. Gordon Smith wrote on Jun 22, 2009 1:30 PM:

" Star Parker , a Negro columnist has written an article that all should read. She knows what it is like to be 'black" in America :
Go here to see what she has to say about the U S .

"

jr1956 wrote on Jun 22, 2009 4:59 PM:

" "Negro"? your dating yourself G. Gordon Smith. Negro is a terminology that went out in the 60's. Afro Americans was the proper term for quite a while, then it was black, no there is really no reason to discriminate and label, bl;ck white, brown or red, remember, "there are no red states or blue states, there is only the Unites states" (President Obama) james 'kimo" Rosen "

manawai wrote on Jun 23, 2009 9:02 AM:

" Jeri Di Pietro, Koloa, said "It is not unusual for a technology like GMO to make giant leaps in science and outpace regulation and moral ethics." Yes, just like your support of abortion and human cloning so you can harverst human t-cells for scientific study? "

G. Gordon Smith wrote on Jun 23, 2009 4:25 PM:

" Kimo, just because a bunch of Negro People of the sixties were ashamed of being considered less than others, they decided "Black" was a less offensive word. Nothing changed. It would be the same if Jews were to start calling themselves "Israeli-Americans" that would make them equal to every one else. No in fact the Jews just said fine , I'll get an education and I will become better than most and that is the best "Revenge". If one thinks that the Jews don't understand the stress of prejudice that the Negroes or Mexicans or the Irish have had to deal with then those thinkers are just ignoramuses.
Personally I love all people of any color, I just have a problem with those groups that have a chip on their shoulder and frankly I feel sorry for them. They need to get an education and make something out of themselves so that other's prejudices will be a reminder of who has the prejudice. "

jr1956 wrote on Jun 23, 2009 9:19 PM:

" Gordon, I like the way you think! Aloha Kimo :D) "

fvr wrote on Jun 23, 2009 10:26 PM:

" All this back and forth with Kimo.
Wake up Kauai ! Try read, Deborah Morel's letter about Howard.
Comment on that.
Right on Howard, Retired Police Officer. You are a good soul. You must have been a great Police Officer.
I remember the officers in the 50,60, and 70's,...
Just to name a few, Ronnie Holt, Albert Kaui, Billy Lem, all of the Kaauwai's including Joe Jr. and many more, good, good, officers, and men.
They don't make good men like you anymore. This new Chief shows these same good qualities of Great Officers Past .Comment on his good works.
God Bless you, retired officer Howard. Way to represent. How it should be.
P.S. And I am not just saying this, because Albert Kaui, was my Uncle, and the best man, beside my own father, that I knew.
I knew all these good men, as a child growing up. Some retired, some gone.
How safe you made me feel, as a child, and into my adulthood, when you saw them drive by, or arrive on the scene. "

jr1956 wrote on Jun 25, 2009 11:47 AM:

" fvr, wish I knew a pol;ice officer with the integrity of Howard, they are a lost a dying breed. God bless you Howard! kimo "

G. Gordon Smith wrote on Jun 25, 2009 6:02 PM:

" Kimo , thanks for the complement. You and I don't always agree, but we respect each others right to have their own opinion. It is a shame that a few of the forum writers need to call people names when they don't like what writer has to say. Personally , I just expect that they are really referring to their own thoughts but don't know how to articulate them. One has to be an idiot to call someone else an idiot . And that goes for all of the other names that some writers say. The bad thing they say is actually the epitome of talking about ones' self . "

fvr wrote on Jun 26, 2009 12:26 AM:

" jr1956
(You said) "I wish I knew a police officer with the integrity of Howard,
they are a lost a dying breed.
I agree, but there are some Police Officers, with lots of integrity.
Just to name a few ...
# 1 on my list Officer Eric Kaui, Officer Marvin Rivera, Officer Regina Ventura,
Officer Joe Adric, Officer Shelley Rodrigues, Officer Wes Kaui
in Princevelle, Officer Mike Contrades, Officer Nagahisa,
I'm sure there are more Officers with integrity. (not all though)
My original comment was my just my personal feeling, of the Police Officers past,such as Howard.from the 50,60,1970's.)
Officers who were friends of the community. Officers who knew your name, and you knew their's, and if you a child, and were out walking, after sunset, they would pick you up, and take you home to your parents. (Every child tends to play a little to long).

The Officers I name above, is for you to know, I can confirm, their are still some Officers with lots of integrity. This I know, because I either grew up with them, or knew their parents, and I know they were, taught integrity, and have, and do their job with integrity.

Again, I think this new, Police Cheif, is bringing, accountabilty, and integrity back to the Department.
I wish more peole would not judge him to harshly, on his every move, and give him a chance. He does remind me of Officers past. Of all the Chief's I knew, since 1954, this Chief Perry, seems to stand out. He is very visible to the Public, and also takes, or makes the time to address the public. He is open, and honest.
I would call him a man of integrity.
Thank you for addressing my comment though, thank you. jr1956. "

JKDownDaMiddle wrote on Jun 26, 2009 5:56 PM:

" Dear Pete,

Before I comment on anyone else's opinion, I read and reread their comments so I don't make a Jack's-arse out of myself....you should try it my opinionated friend. I did not defend Herr Limbaugh's ideals or his merry band of Dittoheads. I did say I had "listened with large helpings of "salt" '...get the sarcasem yet?! What I was defending, is Rush's, your's and my right to free speech and freedom of the press. In fact, if you reREAD my 1st post you should be able to grasp this sentiment.. We've all read so much of Comrade Rosen's posts and of his hatred of the U.S. system of Govt. and alsot how this same system is 'supposed' to work and protect us citizens, that I felt he needed reminding of some of our, his, your's and my basic rights as citizens of this still great nation. In fact, some of the very things he and yourself have cried about in past opinion sections. Oh the hypocrisy!!!

I am and do choose to be 'downdamiddle' because I'm "Fed"up with the ultraLeft....they never fix anything....only blame and usually things are worse for the middle class after their through! I will never be one to drink the Right Winger's Koolaid either. Maybe I would if I owned an oil Company or a few Banks...no middle class support here either.

As for our current Commander in Chief.....well you are right, he can't reverse the rotation of the Earth. Not in 6 months, not ever! Nor was I expecting him to. i did vote for him hoping he would apply pressure to our economic wounds. Stem the flow. Not for him to give transfusions & all access passes for the Blood Bank to the "Leechs" using MY BLOOD!(that's tax dollars & bailouts if you didn't catch it) and plunge this Nation even deeper into the depths of financial despair! If this makes me foolish or a fool....so be it. I've been called much worse by far better than the likes of you...!

From my handy Reader's digest Encyclopedia Dictionary: (1966 edition-post JFK/early Viet Nam era-very interesting).

conservative: pg288, Inclined to preserve the existing order of things: opposed to change. -> I find this to be 100% correct but does this not also describe the Democratic Party for the last "umpteen I lost count how many" years?!

liberal: pg779, Not intolerant or prejudiced: broad-minded. -> Wait a moment, this can't be true! Pete you're a lib and you said yourself that "if I wasn't a fool than I was fool-ish" ...why, how very tolerant, nonprejudicial and broad minded of you to think of me as such.

Have another helping of "Fool's Pudding"...who needs Koolaid"! Aloha from DaMiddle! "

PeteAntonson wrote on Jul 2, 2009 8:02 AM:

" JK, your 1:29 post was nothing but a collection of juvenile namecalling. You do not link your namecalling to anything in my 5:48 post which you seem to be citing. That post was nothing more than making fun of the Rush propaganda style. It did not contain any liberal or socialist philosophy and you completely failed to explain how it was stupid, irresponsible, or nonsense. Therefore you are simply wrong again, to no one's surprise. "

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