Letters for Monday, February 2, 2009
• Lewis needs a history lesson
• Stop talking, do something
• The cannabis message must change
• Visitors, beware
• Lottery to help finances
Lewis needs a history lesson
Walter Lewis needs to learn more of our history if his true aims are to illuminate the state appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court in the so-called “ceded lands” case, better known as the Hawaiian Kingdom Crown and Government Lands case.
In his opinion piece (“History helps to illuminate Hawaiian ceded lands case,” Forum, Jan. 24), Lewis attempts to delineate the legal history behind the recent actions of the Lingle administration’s decision to file a certiorari petition in the United States Supreme Court seeking to overturn a January 2008 Hawai‘i Supreme Court decision requiring the state to desist in any efforts to sell part of the ceded lands until claims of Native Hawaiian interests have been resolved.
But there are many problems with his duplicitous historical chronology. For one, he neglects to mention that the U.S. appropriated stolen lands from the Republic of Hawai‘i in 1898 when it unilaterally annexed the Hawaiian Islands in violation of existing international law.
He also conveniently leaves out most essential part the U.S. Apology Resolution from 1993 (U.S. Public Law 103-150), which states: “the indigenous Hawaiian people never directly relinquished their claims to their inherent sovereignty as a people or over their national lands to the United States, either through their monarchy or through a plebiscite or referendum.”
Applying the language of “civil rights” to the question of the Supreme Court appeal is not only an insult to the Hawaiian people and other descendants of the Kingdom, it is a farcical attempt to elide the history of Hawai‘i as a stolen nation for which we have an un-extinguished claim to restore under international law.
• J. Kehaulani Kauanui, Ph.D., Middletown, Conn.
Stop talking, do something
Mr. Mickens, I would like to commend you on your dedication and commitment to serve Kaua‘i’s youth through baseball. I have heard great stories from current AJA ball players on your ability to coach and play baseball.
I have also read of your writings to The Garden Island. You seem to criticize the County Council and the mayor, you complain about problems that we all face on Kaua‘i, and now you criticize the AJA league.
I’m sure you are aware of the roots of AJA and how/why it got started. Did you, or any of your family members that came before you say something when the Japanese Americans were forced to stay in internment camps? If not, why are you trying to ruin what we have now?
The board members of our league work very hard to keep our league going. The coaches and players have a deep respect for the sport that you love, so please, Mr. Mickens, leave AJA alone.
The bottom line is you were a great player and a great coach. You understand the game and because you participated in so many different leagues, you should know what is needed to start and carry on a successful league. So since you have been saying something for over 10 years, why don’t you stop talking and do something? Start your own league and, again, leave AJA alone.
• Bradley Chiba, Lihu‘e
The cannabis message must change
Eliminating Drug Abuse Resistance Education-type government anti-drug programs (“How to reduce drug use,” Letters, Jan. 27) will lower hard drug addiction rates when replaced by more honest drug awareness programs.
Even government studies indicate DARE is a failure and one reason is due to teaching lies, half-truths and propaganda concerning the relatively safe, God-given plant cannabis (marijuana).
How many citizens try cannabis and realize it’s not nearly as harmful as taught in DARE programs? Then they think other substances must not be so bad either, only to become addicted to deadly drugs. The old lessons make cannabis out to be among the worst substances in the world, even though it’s never killed a single person.
The federal government even classifies cannabis as a Schedule I substance along with heroin, while methamphetamine and cocaine are only Schedule II substances. For the health and welfare of America’s children and adults, the message pertaining to cannabis absolutely must change.
• Stan White, Dillon, Colo.
Visitors, beware
This is to advise visitors to paradise that some of the car rental companies are gouging you at the rental counters.
Just because this is paradise doesn’t mean you have to pay triple the rate from last year. Seven hundred and fifty dollars a week for a car is outrageous.
Please shop around. I returned my car after one day and went to Thrifty in paradise for a company that was one-half the price.
• Mark Radford, Albuquerque, NM
Lottery to help finances
As much as we all complain about our roads, and the traffic only gets worse — without any viable feedback from those in a position to do something about it. I have a potential solution: a lottery.
Many other states have them with wonderful results. Arizona, for one, has great highways and an educational system supplemented to a great extent by a state-run lottery.
Participants buy tickets at various prices, from $1 and up, whenever they want to. It’s not “gambling” per se. Most people spend only pocket change on it, but with payoffs in multiple thousands, even millions, of dollars, people buy these inexpensive tickets hoping against the odds they’ll win. In fact, they may even win nominal payoffs, which sustain their interest.
The state receives millions for such things as highway construction, which would otherwise be unaffordable.
Now, why can’t Hawai‘i do the same? Let’s finally solve the problem. Can we protest the County Council with enough noise that they can’t continue to have deaf ears?
Am I dreaming to think we might even be able to afford our property taxes and not force our children to move to the Mainland to buy homes?
• Cece Fern, Lihu‘e
• Stop talking, do something
• The cannabis message must change
• Visitors, beware
• Lottery to help finances
Lewis needs a history lesson
Walter Lewis needs to learn more of our history if his true aims are to illuminate the state appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court in the so-called “ceded lands” case, better known as the Hawaiian Kingdom Crown and Government Lands case.
In his opinion piece (“History helps to illuminate Hawaiian ceded lands case,” Forum, Jan. 24), Lewis attempts to delineate the legal history behind the recent actions of the Lingle administration’s decision to file a certiorari petition in the United States Supreme Court seeking to overturn a January 2008 Hawai‘i Supreme Court decision requiring the state to desist in any efforts to sell part of the ceded lands until claims of Native Hawaiian interests have been resolved.
But there are many problems with his duplicitous historical chronology. For one, he neglects to mention that the U.S. appropriated stolen lands from the Republic of Hawai‘i in 1898 when it unilaterally annexed the Hawaiian Islands in violation of existing international law.
He also conveniently leaves out most essential part the U.S. Apology Resolution from 1993 (U.S. Public Law 103-150), which states: “the indigenous Hawaiian people never directly relinquished their claims to their inherent sovereignty as a people or over their national lands to the United States, either through their monarchy or through a plebiscite or referendum.”
Applying the language of “civil rights” to the question of the Supreme Court appeal is not only an insult to the Hawaiian people and other descendants of the Kingdom, it is a farcical attempt to elide the history of Hawai‘i as a stolen nation for which we have an un-extinguished claim to restore under international law.
• J. Kehaulani Kauanui, Ph.D., Middletown, Conn.
Stop talking, do something
Mr. Mickens, I would like to commend you on your dedication and commitment to serve Kaua‘i’s youth through baseball. I have heard great stories from current AJA ball players on your ability to coach and play baseball.
I have also read of your writings to The Garden Island. You seem to criticize the County Council and the mayor, you complain about problems that we all face on Kaua‘i, and now you criticize the AJA league.
I’m sure you are aware of the roots of AJA and how/why it got started. Did you, or any of your family members that came before you say something when the Japanese Americans were forced to stay in internment camps? If not, why are you trying to ruin what we have now?
The board members of our league work very hard to keep our league going. The coaches and players have a deep respect for the sport that you love, so please, Mr. Mickens, leave AJA alone.
The bottom line is you were a great player and a great coach. You understand the game and because you participated in so many different leagues, you should know what is needed to start and carry on a successful league. So since you have been saying something for over 10 years, why don’t you stop talking and do something? Start your own league and, again, leave AJA alone.
• Bradley Chiba, Lihu‘e
The cannabis message must change
Eliminating Drug Abuse Resistance Education-type government anti-drug programs (“How to reduce drug use,” Letters, Jan. 27) will lower hard drug addiction rates when replaced by more honest drug awareness programs.
Even government studies indicate DARE is a failure and one reason is due to teaching lies, half-truths and propaganda concerning the relatively safe, God-given plant cannabis (marijuana).
How many citizens try cannabis and realize it’s not nearly as harmful as taught in DARE programs? Then they think other substances must not be so bad either, only to become addicted to deadly drugs. The old lessons make cannabis out to be among the worst substances in the world, even though it’s never killed a single person.
The federal government even classifies cannabis as a Schedule I substance along with heroin, while methamphetamine and cocaine are only Schedule II substances. For the health and welfare of America’s children and adults, the message pertaining to cannabis absolutely must change.
• Stan White, Dillon, Colo.
Visitors, beware
This is to advise visitors to paradise that some of the car rental companies are gouging you at the rental counters.
Just because this is paradise doesn’t mean you have to pay triple the rate from last year. Seven hundred and fifty dollars a week for a car is outrageous.
Please shop around. I returned my car after one day and went to Thrifty in paradise for a company that was one-half the price.
• Mark Radford, Albuquerque, NM
Lottery to help finances
As much as we all complain about our roads, and the traffic only gets worse — without any viable feedback from those in a position to do something about it. I have a potential solution: a lottery.
Many other states have them with wonderful results. Arizona, for one, has great highways and an educational system supplemented to a great extent by a state-run lottery.
Participants buy tickets at various prices, from $1 and up, whenever they want to. It’s not “gambling” per se. Most people spend only pocket change on it, but with payoffs in multiple thousands, even millions, of dollars, people buy these inexpensive tickets hoping against the odds they’ll win. In fact, they may even win nominal payoffs, which sustain their interest.
The state receives millions for such things as highway construction, which would otherwise be unaffordable.
Now, why can’t Hawai‘i do the same? Let’s finally solve the problem. Can we protest the County Council with enough noise that they can’t continue to have deaf ears?
Am I dreaming to think we might even be able to afford our property taxes and not force our children to move to the Mainland to buy homes?
• Cece Fern, Lihu‘e
Related headlines
- Public Meetings for Sunday, August 9, 2009
- Letters for Wednesday, November 26, 2008
- Public Meetings for Sunday, October 25, 2009
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cousin wrote on Feb 2, 2009 3:21 PM:
" Aloha. At face value the promises of a State Lottery are of great potential.
The realities of all of the promises of funding are not as great, as evidenced by the California State Lottery System. The promise at inception was for a large percentage of the Lottery earnings to augment California education and schools, and years after the Lottery was voted into State law the schools have yet to see any funds sent to the districts. The promised funds for almost all categories are little or non-existent.
The fact is that the State has used the Lottery funds to shore up an increasing amount of debt from huge loans that were necessary to keep the state's finances solvent. The problem with a State sponsored Lottery System is that the funds almost never get to the promised assigned entity and usually end up paying for State debt in hard-hit sectors.
A State Lottery system costs millions to set up and is almost never paid-as-promised to the citizens. Yes indeed, if you look at the promises still on the Lottery web-pages they are promoted as if they were yet being funded as promised. If one were to check behind the glossy web page design and find the hard numbers for funding to any promised entity, one would get a big surprise - and it wouldn't be "I won!”
Response in regards to the following letter to the editor:
Lottery to help finances, written by • Cece Fern, Lihu‘e and posted on February 2, 2009 Letters. "
The realities of all of the promises of funding are not as great, as evidenced by the California State Lottery System. The promise at inception was for a large percentage of the Lottery earnings to augment California education and schools, and years after the Lottery was voted into State law the schools have yet to see any funds sent to the districts. The promised funds for almost all categories are little or non-existent.
The fact is that the State has used the Lottery funds to shore up an increasing amount of debt from huge loans that were necessary to keep the state's finances solvent. The problem with a State sponsored Lottery System is that the funds almost never get to the promised assigned entity and usually end up paying for State debt in hard-hit sectors.
A State Lottery system costs millions to set up and is almost never paid-as-promised to the citizens. Yes indeed, if you look at the promises still on the Lottery web-pages they are promoted as if they were yet being funded as promised. If one were to check behind the glossy web page design and find the hard numbers for funding to any promised entity, one would get a big surprise - and it wouldn't be "I won!”
Response in regards to the following letter to the editor:
Lottery to help finances, written by • Cece Fern, Lihu‘e and posted on February 2, 2009 Letters. "
Fran wrote on Feb 2, 2009 4:35 PM:
" I keep reading about how the Super Ferry will be responsible for bringing crime, traffic, drugs, and invasive species to the island (Time for truth). I'm sure every one is keeping current by reading the newspaper and if not I'd like to enlighten you, by telling you that the top story for the past few weeks on Kaua`i have been thefts and burglaries. If you missed reading the Police Blotter, drug arrests are at the top of those lists. We all know traffic has been a problem for years, so nothing new there. As for invasive species goes, the last time I checked Coqui frogs were included in that list. And guess what? They made it to the islands before the Super Ferry was even thought of. We are all aware that Young Bros., Horizon Lines, Matson, and air cargo is shipping in everything we need without having to perform any extreme cargo inspections; the occasional spot check being the exception. I worked for a major retailer and when we opened those shipping containers we'd see spiders, weird looking bugs and insects, and the occasional stowaway cat.
Then there's the removing of resources from the island. The writer is stating that 400 pounds of fish was removed from Maui in a month. Wow! Did you know that if you catch a few Uluas weighing in at the 80 to 100 pound range, then it doesn't take much to reach 400 pounds. Having worked in the Seafood industry, I saw firsthand the local fishermen come in with their catch and sell fish to our company and the handful of other local Seafood companies on the island, to support their families. Know what they did with the rest of their catch? It was packed up and shipped off the island to neighbor island purveyors via air cargo, occasionally by barge. Know what our company did with the excess fish that we couldn't sell locally to the grocers or restaurants? It got packed up and air flown to the neighbor islands and to the mainland.
So while there are some good arguments out there, that things may occur. It isn't like all of these problems aren't already here. And who knows, the Super Ferry might impact the islands in a good way; by helping boost the economy. Remember, in the ancient days there weren't any airplanes; so neighbor island travel was all done by sea. "
Then there's the removing of resources from the island. The writer is stating that 400 pounds of fish was removed from Maui in a month. Wow! Did you know that if you catch a few Uluas weighing in at the 80 to 100 pound range, then it doesn't take much to reach 400 pounds. Having worked in the Seafood industry, I saw firsthand the local fishermen come in with their catch and sell fish to our company and the handful of other local Seafood companies on the island, to support their families. Know what they did with the rest of their catch? It was packed up and shipped off the island to neighbor island purveyors via air cargo, occasionally by barge. Know what our company did with the excess fish that we couldn't sell locally to the grocers or restaurants? It got packed up and air flown to the neighbor islands and to the mainland.
So while there are some good arguments out there, that things may occur. It isn't like all of these problems aren't already here. And who knows, the Super Ferry might impact the islands in a good way; by helping boost the economy. Remember, in the ancient days there weren't any airplanes; so neighbor island travel was all done by sea. "
numilalocal55 wrote on Feb 3, 2009 8:14 AM:
" Mickens and Lewis and all the other grumblers are just mainland hoales who've moved here and decided that they know better than all us locals. They're the problem: too expensive houses, choke traffic, no more nothing for local people. The haoles wanna make it all their way - never mind how us locals feel. Maybe the best thing for them to do instead of always grumbling is to take their money and their cars and their stink attitudes and go home. We tired of them already. "
PeteAntonson wrote on Feb 3, 2009 9:48 PM:
" There is an attitude represented here that is more than a chip on a shoulder. It is a wedge being driven deeper into the Island each day. The message needs to go out that the respect you get is equal to the respect you give. You don't get it from a bumpersticker that demands it. I have disagreed with Mssrs Mickens and Lewis many times. Nevertheless, they have my respect and I'm glad that they share their ideas and opinions. That's how a productive democracy works. As for driving those who think or look different into the sea; that's how tyrants work. "
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ltereader wrote on Feb 2, 2009 8:49 AM:
The walk in rates for car rentals at the Airport gouge residents too. Recently a friend came to visit me on Kauai from Maui. It was a spontaneous decision so she didn't book a car in advance. The rate quoted at the desk was outrageous. She walked out, called their toll free number from her cell, booked a car, then walked back in and picked up the vehicle for about 1/3 of the walk in rate, not 5 minutes later!
When we questioned them about it they sputtered some lame excuse about only having so many cars for last minute walk ins, blah, blah.
As residents it was a slap in the face too, so this doesn't happen just to visitors. "