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Letters for Saturday, April 12, 2008
• Bottomfishing methods need regulation
• Disappointed with portrayal of young sex offenders
• Sex predators not all men
• Orwell dancing in his grave
Bottomfishing methods need regulation
The state’s new bottomfishing restrictions are the dumbest thing that I have seen for a long time. It is the methods of bottomfishing that require control.
Before World War II, the Hawaiian fishermen of Japanese descent used to fish as deep as 1,200 feet for ehu, onaga and other bottomfish. They didn’t have GPS. Instead, they used landmarks to locate their fishing holes. Non Japanese, such as my friend Johnny Abreu, learned from the Japanese. During the war, when fishermen of Japanese ancestry were prohibited from fishing from boats, locals such as Abreu were the fishermen. The lines used in deep bottomfishing were of hand laid linen, tanned with shibu (persimmon juice). They were sent to the bottom with 5 pounds of lead and a leader which contained as many as 10 Hawaiian hooks.
Pulling up 1,200 feet of line, fish and hooks took strength and stamina. It is impossible to fish out the bottomfish stock using this method. First the state has to distinguish between sportfishermen and commercial fishermen. Almost all fishermen today locate the fish by depth finders and GPS. Commercial fishermen use methods ranging from deep trawls to deep lines, which they retrieve with electric winches. The results, unless controlled, can be devastating. Sport fishermen may also use electric winches. For them, a bag limit might be the answer to overfishing particular areas.
The state, instead of blindly following certain federal regulations, should discuss these matters with the feds, who I have found to be sincerely interested in tailoring their regulations to local conditions.
Harry Boranian
Lihu‘e
Disappointed with portrayal of young sex offenders
Editor’s note: The following is in response to an editorial decision to remove a sentence that included a name in a letter that was published yesterday. The letter writer is convinced the omission changed the entire tone of the letter. TGI agreed to run this letter to clarify and because the name is on record in the original article referenced.
I am deeply disappointed in what happened to my letter I sent in (“How can we live like this?” Letters, April 11).
I was inspired to write to The Garden Island because I was disturbed by the fact that Renae Hamilton, the director of the YWCA in an article on April 6 was referring to girls 13, and 14 years old as “young adults” and that legal aged, raping molesting perpetrators were referred to as “young people.” Additionally she expressed concern about the jail sentences these “young people” might get for their crimes as being “trouble.”
My concern is that some of the ways child abuse is perpetuated is a problem of perception — unfortunately even by those who are directing agencies which are supposed to be helping the victims.
Sunday’s article drove that thought home and that is why I wrote my letter to the newspaper. By removing my response to how she referenced the above, it saddened me that the opinion I sought to share lost an important point. Perception can perpetuate tolerance of something and minimize what should be revolting to most communities. I am a Guardian Ad Litem for family court here on the island of Kaua‘i. I have spent years helping child victims. I am sad that what the public got yesterday in the Letters section was a very diluted view that didn’t say much and didn’t offend anyone.
I have no personal beef with anyone who tries to help the ills of our society including Renae Hamilton whom I am sure has good intentions and works very hard. Just be careful what you call young girls, and what you call a rapist, no matter how old they are. There are those who will take it as an opportunity to legitimize their sick behavior.
Shari Pilaria
Koloa
Sex predators not all men
I just read and reread the letter by Shari Pilaria (“How can we live like this?” Letters, April 11) and was a bit bothered by it.
While I agree that abuse of any kind against a child should never be minimized or tolerated period, I felt as if Shari thinks that this is a “man” problem. Her numerous references to men as the source of the problem feels like it has a slight “hate men” edge to it.
Sorry, but that is what stuck out to me.
Am I offended? Not really.
Perhaps the point of Shari’s letter would have had more weight if she had been more neutral in her reference to the abusers as sexual predators instead of him, he, men, etc.
Again, please do not misunderstand what I’m saying. Sexual predators come in both genders and neither should ever be tolerated. By the same token, justice should also have no reference or preference to gender when dealing with these despicable individuals. And yes Shari, I agree with you. He did get off too easy.
Stephen Shioi
Kapa‘a
Orwell dancing in his grave
I would like to quote two paragraphs in a Washington news release that appeared in The Garden Island morning briefing section on March 29:
“Washington — Deadly mortar fall in the fortified Green Zone. The U.S. fires a Hellfire missile in Baghdad. Fighting escalates in Basra, where the mettle of Iraq security forces is being sorely tested.
To President Bush, this could spell progress in Iraq.”
Sigh. Those who fall for this are most surely true believers. George attracts them by the bundle. Or else they played a little too much follow the leader when they were kids.
George Orwell must be dancing in his grave.
Bettejo Dux
Kalaheo
• Disappointed with portrayal of young sex offenders
• Sex predators not all men
• Orwell dancing in his grave
Bottomfishing methods need regulation
The state’s new bottomfishing restrictions are the dumbest thing that I have seen for a long time. It is the methods of bottomfishing that require control.
Before World War II, the Hawaiian fishermen of Japanese descent used to fish as deep as 1,200 feet for ehu, onaga and other bottomfish. They didn’t have GPS. Instead, they used landmarks to locate their fishing holes. Non Japanese, such as my friend Johnny Abreu, learned from the Japanese. During the war, when fishermen of Japanese ancestry were prohibited from fishing from boats, locals such as Abreu were the fishermen. The lines used in deep bottomfishing were of hand laid linen, tanned with shibu (persimmon juice). They were sent to the bottom with 5 pounds of lead and a leader which contained as many as 10 Hawaiian hooks.
Pulling up 1,200 feet of line, fish and hooks took strength and stamina. It is impossible to fish out the bottomfish stock using this method. First the state has to distinguish between sportfishermen and commercial fishermen. Almost all fishermen today locate the fish by depth finders and GPS. Commercial fishermen use methods ranging from deep trawls to deep lines, which they retrieve with electric winches. The results, unless controlled, can be devastating. Sport fishermen may also use electric winches. For them, a bag limit might be the answer to overfishing particular areas.
The state, instead of blindly following certain federal regulations, should discuss these matters with the feds, who I have found to be sincerely interested in tailoring their regulations to local conditions.
Harry Boranian
Lihu‘e
Disappointed with portrayal of young sex offenders
Editor’s note: The following is in response to an editorial decision to remove a sentence that included a name in a letter that was published yesterday. The letter writer is convinced the omission changed the entire tone of the letter. TGI agreed to run this letter to clarify and because the name is on record in the original article referenced.
I am deeply disappointed in what happened to my letter I sent in (“How can we live like this?” Letters, April 11).
I was inspired to write to The Garden Island because I was disturbed by the fact that Renae Hamilton, the director of the YWCA in an article on April 6 was referring to girls 13, and 14 years old as “young adults” and that legal aged, raping molesting perpetrators were referred to as “young people.” Additionally she expressed concern about the jail sentences these “young people” might get for their crimes as being “trouble.”
My concern is that some of the ways child abuse is perpetuated is a problem of perception — unfortunately even by those who are directing agencies which are supposed to be helping the victims.
Sunday’s article drove that thought home and that is why I wrote my letter to the newspaper. By removing my response to how she referenced the above, it saddened me that the opinion I sought to share lost an important point. Perception can perpetuate tolerance of something and minimize what should be revolting to most communities. I am a Guardian Ad Litem for family court here on the island of Kaua‘i. I have spent years helping child victims. I am sad that what the public got yesterday in the Letters section was a very diluted view that didn’t say much and didn’t offend anyone.
I have no personal beef with anyone who tries to help the ills of our society including Renae Hamilton whom I am sure has good intentions and works very hard. Just be careful what you call young girls, and what you call a rapist, no matter how old they are. There are those who will take it as an opportunity to legitimize their sick behavior.
Shari Pilaria
Koloa
Sex predators not all men
I just read and reread the letter by Shari Pilaria (“How can we live like this?” Letters, April 11) and was a bit bothered by it.
While I agree that abuse of any kind against a child should never be minimized or tolerated period, I felt as if Shari thinks that this is a “man” problem. Her numerous references to men as the source of the problem feels like it has a slight “hate men” edge to it.
Sorry, but that is what stuck out to me.
Am I offended? Not really.
Perhaps the point of Shari’s letter would have had more weight if she had been more neutral in her reference to the abusers as sexual predators instead of him, he, men, etc.
Again, please do not misunderstand what I’m saying. Sexual predators come in both genders and neither should ever be tolerated. By the same token, justice should also have no reference or preference to gender when dealing with these despicable individuals. And yes Shari, I agree with you. He did get off too easy.
Stephen Shioi
Kapa‘a
Orwell dancing in his grave
I would like to quote two paragraphs in a Washington news release that appeared in The Garden Island morning briefing section on March 29:
“Washington — Deadly mortar fall in the fortified Green Zone. The U.S. fires a Hellfire missile in Baghdad. Fighting escalates in Basra, where the mettle of Iraq security forces is being sorely tested.
To President Bush, this could spell progress in Iraq.”
Sigh. Those who fall for this are most surely true believers. George attracts them by the bundle. Or else they played a little too much follow the leader when they were kids.
George Orwell must be dancing in his grave.
Bettejo Dux
Kalaheo
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HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 9:19 AM:
" Hello again TGI,
Please do not expect anyone to buy your theory of promotion or advertising and success program Waimea High School. We the former students there at one time in our lives actually do not care of local propaganda and success story with you or anyone there and their cars to show for as a success story.
Basically, I wrote to Waimea High School, and I suspect as always that this town is a ghost town. No offense but there is nothing to do there, just unemployed educators and former students.
I am not with their idea of success story, and I am not placing religion or anything like that on anyone, because as you know, this is still a free country and you can do anything you want. The whole idea of success just doesn't work well in a farm club setting and wanting to make it out or make it happen after you graduate in high school there to say the least.
Basically, some people I may know here, think some of you people still stuck there are still losers because you haven't made it happen for yourself or others, if you get my point staying home doing nothing.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
Please do not expect anyone to buy your theory of promotion or advertising and success program Waimea High School. We the former students there at one time in our lives actually do not care of local propaganda and success story with you or anyone there and their cars to show for as a success story.
Basically, I wrote to Waimea High School, and I suspect as always that this town is a ghost town. No offense but there is nothing to do there, just unemployed educators and former students.
I am not with their idea of success story, and I am not placing religion or anything like that on anyone, because as you know, this is still a free country and you can do anything you want. The whole idea of success just doesn't work well in a farm club setting and wanting to make it out or make it happen after you graduate in high school there to say the least.
Basically, some people I may know here, think some of you people still stuck there are still losers because you haven't made it happen for yourself or others, if you get my point staying home doing nothing.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:45 PM:
" First of all, let this be known, that these comments here are worthless and useless considering the topic being discussed. We found this topic a useless waist of time and money. This is from any intellectual interested reader. And yes, I am not associated with any former classmates there on Kauai also, for this matter alone.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:50 PM:
" I have seen alot of losers being mentioned in association to Waimea High School sports at UH Manoa. Might I add they are the one's who are delerious and a debachery to any level minded reader. These names are wide and long. And they run from 1979-1990 graduates trying grace the pages of Kauai and represent that school, outrageous. I for one, right now am putting all of them down for ever contemplating fame and popularity. We actually do not understand your fame and glory at Waimea High School.
This is in regards to your articles on the Waimea High School athletics and any department there.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
This is in regards to your articles on the Waimea High School athletics and any department there.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:55 PM:
" Losers I have mentioned that graced those pages are as follows:
Ross Kagawa 1984' UH baseball 1987' classmate of Percival Butay(cousin)
Edmond Acoba 1981'
Liko Pereira 1989 and someother school baseball?
Kui Souza 1988 Sacramento state baseball
Craig Ibara 1983' HPC of honolulu baseball
Keith Pigao - student information desk for all information here for class reunion
Lyman Lacro 1986, UH Volleyball 1987
Barry Magoay 1985, UH Volleyball 1989
These are just some of the names trying to gain popular votes via their own high School Waimea High School
even now. Unreal!
Best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
Ross Kagawa 1984' UH baseball 1987' classmate of Percival Butay(cousin)
Edmond Acoba 1981'
Liko Pereira 1989 and someother school baseball?
Kui Souza 1988 Sacramento state baseball
Craig Ibara 1983' HPC of honolulu baseball
Keith Pigao - student information desk for all information here for class reunion
Lyman Lacro 1986, UH Volleyball 1987
Barry Magoay 1985, UH Volleyball 1989
These are just some of the names trying to gain popular votes via their own high School Waimea High School
even now. Unreal!
Best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 12, 2009 1:08 PM:
" Hello again TGI,
This is me, Dean Kelly Sabado. Thank you for letting me comment on your articles there on the island. I just want to thank everyone agreeing with myself on who actually I meant, calling them losers in that town. Ha! Ha! Ha! I am a personal graduate of that high school but will proudly say if they keep up the good work in academics and life, will not be too ashamed of being associated with Waimea High School as an alumni.
Sorry, but there are others who felt this way! Here on the island of Honolulu and even the mainland. These names may have one time in their lives even mine represent the epitome of failure and laughs, and not success.
best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
This is me, Dean Kelly Sabado. Thank you for letting me comment on your articles there on the island. I just want to thank everyone agreeing with myself on who actually I meant, calling them losers in that town. Ha! Ha! Ha! I am a personal graduate of that high school but will proudly say if they keep up the good work in academics and life, will not be too ashamed of being associated with Waimea High School as an alumni.
Sorry, but there are others who felt this way! Here on the island of Honolulu and even the mainland. These names may have one time in their lives even mine represent the epitome of failure and laughs, and not success.
best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
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HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 9:08 AM:
RE: 2/11/2009 and the above topic
Can we cut out the "EXPLETIVE" here. Everyone knows if you are or were affiliated with high school at one time in your life in Waimea, Kauai, you would know that you do not place one of the three stooges willing to work at Kentucky fried chicken and place him at the vice principal's seat at Waimea High School. We all know that BOE and DOE played no roll in this nonsense of students being athletes then becomming success in the respected choice of degree and field like a BA degree. An example, you cannot put someone like a Pereira or even an Aaron Francisco from Kahuku High School, now former Arizona Cardinals NFL, as a BA candidtate after a prolific showing in sports. It just does not work that way. We all know that they cannot be serious placing academics after a 10 year assistant coach with a rediculous man/educator and/or coach if I might add like Tommy Rita of the 1980's and then expect him, Patrick Pereira to educate people in 2000's after being associated with dumb athletes all their life and now turn to academics. Now they educate people? Ha! What are we looking at here is basically a rediculous and dumber community than most perceived DOE standard base learning. Otherwise throw this article out already, alright?
best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "