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Letters for Wednesday, March 28, 2007
• Theft of plants saddens business owner
• Following up on reports might make a difference
• A few observations
• Wants Kauai Springs back
• Random unwarranted search is wrong in free society
Theft of plants saddens business owner
Digital Arts of Waimea recently moved into the retail space formerly occupied by Waimea Video Rental and we try very hard to make the store something that will be an asset to the community. A small part of that was some ornamental flowers under our front window to make the area a bit more inviting and pleasant.
Last night (Monday) someone decided they needed the flowers more than the community did ... and so they dug up and stole them all, sometime between 4:30 p.m. and 7 p.m., right on the main street. While the plants cost around $100 (plus my associate’s TLC in getting them started and maintained ... she’s heartbroken), it’s not really the money that saddens us.
There were two peperomias, two crotons, one dark pink anthurium, one brown pansy, one purple pansy, an orange zinnia, a pink geranium, two purple dianthus, two light pink polka-dots, and two dark pink.
If you notice someone who has suddenly “planted” this particular assortment, please call KPD and reference report number 2007-7797.
Elaine Albertson
Digital Arts of Waimea
Following up on reports might make a difference
A few weeks ago The Garden Island printed my letter to the Forum about my 14-year-old grandson being “false cracked” by another 14-year-old in the Dry Cave on July 4, 2006, sending my grandson to the hospital and that there has never been any follow up-by the police.
Perhaps, if reports were followed up on when the “angst-ridden” youth are still young enough (say, 14-years-old) we could head off this type of behavior.
Pam Engstrom
Princeville
A few observations
Okay, so everyone’s always complaining that the motorists are not looking out for the pedestrians. Well, I’d like to make some observations on pedestrians not paying attention or following the rules of the road themselves.
While exiting Lihu’e McDonald’s one afternoon, I nearly missed hitting a bicyclist who was zooming down the sidewalk. Another near miss at the KFC/Hilo Hattie’s intersection while making a right turn onto Kuhio Hwy. from Ahukini; two female tourists crossing against the “Do Not Walk” signal. Another observation would be of people getting off the cruise ships, jaywalking everywhere in the Nawiliwili area and what’s up with people jaywalking on Kuhio Hwy. in front of McDonalds? Do you people have a death wish with the cars zooming by? I try to go 25 mph as posted with the “Speed Limit” signs and I have people tailgating and zigzagging in and out of the lanes like I’m not moving.
A totally different subject, but let’s kill two birds with one stone (just a phrase, all you animal lovers); why are cars allowed to park on Rice Street during non-parking hours. I believe the non-parking hours are from 7 a.m. to 9 a.m. and from 3 p.m.to 5 p.m. I occasionally see police officers ticketing them, but usually they’ll just swerve around them like everyone else. Shame on you, business owners on Rice Street, who fought to get those parking stalls saved, but will allow patrons to park during non-parking hours. I know you can see them through your front windows as they park to patronize your business. And if someone were to careen into one of those parked vehicles during non-parking hours, who’s responsible for the damage and/or injuries?
Just my observations...
Francine M. Grace
Kalaheo
Wants Kauai Springs back
Let me see if I have got this straight. A local family develops a business utilizing a local product that is currently being imported from off-island. The family jumps through all the necessary bureaucratic hoops, establishes a clientele of satisfied local customers, and even donates said product to numerous non-profit community organizations.
One would THINK the County government would hand out some kind of award to this family. But, oh yeah, it’s Kaua‘i, so instead, they are shutting down this business for reasons that seem incomprehensible to me.
Apparently our county government is against Big Box, Small Box or Any Box that isn’t already deeply entrenched in the politics of the island.
We want Kauai Springs back!
Dain Spore
Lawa‘i
Random unwarranted search is wrong in free society
Once more the lieutenant governor of our state has raised the spectre of random drug testing in public schools. In the first place, this is a violation of the constitutional protection against unreasonable search and seizure. I am aware that the legal system has allowed random sobriety checks on our roads based on the flimsy excuse that they are not selective. I believe that the road checks are unconstitutional also. Stop cars that are driving erratically or breaking traffic rules — and during the stop, check for seat belts, sobriety and whatever. Random unwarranted search is wrong in a free society.
A case can be made for searches for weapons or potential weapons when cars are entering airports or government parking lots and when people are entering airports and government buildings. Technically, these searches are illegal also but since people go there voluntarily and the type and location of the searches is common knowledge, they become voluntary in nature. Another thing about contraband searches is that there is no threat of punishment — just confiscation of the banned item. Of course, a person ticketed at a road check and ordered to go to court faces double search jeopardy.
On the other side of the spectrum, the ACLU and vocal liberal radicals have been complaining about government agencies ‘spying’ (i.e. without a judicial wiretap order) on the overseas calls made by or to citizens who are suspected of terrorist activities. These same groups also rail against other forms of government surveillance and data mining. The hue and cry has been aimed at the data gathering only and I have not heard of any instance of innocent citizen being hassled or otherwise harmed by the evidence thus collected.
Why should potential terrorists or money launderers be protected from searches not specifically authorized by a judge — when the flying public, drivers on the road, people entering public buildings and now public school students are not so protected?
I certainly don’t condone the use of alcohol or drugs while driving, or working, or going to school. This is especially true for public transportation operators, airline pilots and other key positions. Unfortunately, drug tests do not necessarily measure how impaired the testee is, which is what we should really be checking. Drug tests do not determine when the substance was used — and off-duty use of alcohol and other drugs is another issue altogether. Using chemicals to make one feel better has been around throughout recorded history and will continue to be so. Modern medicine even encourages parents to give Ritalin to their rambunctious keiki while taking Prozac themselves. The war on drugs, unlike the war in Iraq, is unwinnable. Why don’t the anti-war folks hop onto that bandwagon?
Stan Godes
Hanalei
• Following up on reports might make a difference
• A few observations
• Wants Kauai Springs back
• Random unwarranted search is wrong in free society
Theft of plants saddens business owner
Digital Arts of Waimea recently moved into the retail space formerly occupied by Waimea Video Rental and we try very hard to make the store something that will be an asset to the community. A small part of that was some ornamental flowers under our front window to make the area a bit more inviting and pleasant.
Last night (Monday) someone decided they needed the flowers more than the community did ... and so they dug up and stole them all, sometime between 4:30 p.m. and 7 p.m., right on the main street. While the plants cost around $100 (plus my associate’s TLC in getting them started and maintained ... she’s heartbroken), it’s not really the money that saddens us.
There were two peperomias, two crotons, one dark pink anthurium, one brown pansy, one purple pansy, an orange zinnia, a pink geranium, two purple dianthus, two light pink polka-dots, and two dark pink.
If you notice someone who has suddenly “planted” this particular assortment, please call KPD and reference report number 2007-7797.
Elaine Albertson
Digital Arts of Waimea
Following up on reports might make a difference
A few weeks ago The Garden Island printed my letter to the Forum about my 14-year-old grandson being “false cracked” by another 14-year-old in the Dry Cave on July 4, 2006, sending my grandson to the hospital and that there has never been any follow up-by the police.
Perhaps, if reports were followed up on when the “angst-ridden” youth are still young enough (say, 14-years-old) we could head off this type of behavior.
Pam Engstrom
Princeville
A few observations
Okay, so everyone’s always complaining that the motorists are not looking out for the pedestrians. Well, I’d like to make some observations on pedestrians not paying attention or following the rules of the road themselves.
While exiting Lihu’e McDonald’s one afternoon, I nearly missed hitting a bicyclist who was zooming down the sidewalk. Another near miss at the KFC/Hilo Hattie’s intersection while making a right turn onto Kuhio Hwy. from Ahukini; two female tourists crossing against the “Do Not Walk” signal. Another observation would be of people getting off the cruise ships, jaywalking everywhere in the Nawiliwili area and what’s up with people jaywalking on Kuhio Hwy. in front of McDonalds? Do you people have a death wish with the cars zooming by? I try to go 25 mph as posted with the “Speed Limit” signs and I have people tailgating and zigzagging in and out of the lanes like I’m not moving.
A totally different subject, but let’s kill two birds with one stone (just a phrase, all you animal lovers); why are cars allowed to park on Rice Street during non-parking hours. I believe the non-parking hours are from 7 a.m. to 9 a.m. and from 3 p.m.to 5 p.m. I occasionally see police officers ticketing them, but usually they’ll just swerve around them like everyone else. Shame on you, business owners on Rice Street, who fought to get those parking stalls saved, but will allow patrons to park during non-parking hours. I know you can see them through your front windows as they park to patronize your business. And if someone were to careen into one of those parked vehicles during non-parking hours, who’s responsible for the damage and/or injuries?
Just my observations...
Francine M. Grace
Kalaheo
Wants Kauai Springs back
Let me see if I have got this straight. A local family develops a business utilizing a local product that is currently being imported from off-island. The family jumps through all the necessary bureaucratic hoops, establishes a clientele of satisfied local customers, and even donates said product to numerous non-profit community organizations.
One would THINK the County government would hand out some kind of award to this family. But, oh yeah, it’s Kaua‘i, so instead, they are shutting down this business for reasons that seem incomprehensible to me.
Apparently our county government is against Big Box, Small Box or Any Box that isn’t already deeply entrenched in the politics of the island.
We want Kauai Springs back!
Dain Spore
Lawa‘i
Random unwarranted search is wrong in free society
Once more the lieutenant governor of our state has raised the spectre of random drug testing in public schools. In the first place, this is a violation of the constitutional protection against unreasonable search and seizure. I am aware that the legal system has allowed random sobriety checks on our roads based on the flimsy excuse that they are not selective. I believe that the road checks are unconstitutional also. Stop cars that are driving erratically or breaking traffic rules — and during the stop, check for seat belts, sobriety and whatever. Random unwarranted search is wrong in a free society.
A case can be made for searches for weapons or potential weapons when cars are entering airports or government parking lots and when people are entering airports and government buildings. Technically, these searches are illegal also but since people go there voluntarily and the type and location of the searches is common knowledge, they become voluntary in nature. Another thing about contraband searches is that there is no threat of punishment — just confiscation of the banned item. Of course, a person ticketed at a road check and ordered to go to court faces double search jeopardy.
On the other side of the spectrum, the ACLU and vocal liberal radicals have been complaining about government agencies ‘spying’ (i.e. without a judicial wiretap order) on the overseas calls made by or to citizens who are suspected of terrorist activities. These same groups also rail against other forms of government surveillance and data mining. The hue and cry has been aimed at the data gathering only and I have not heard of any instance of innocent citizen being hassled or otherwise harmed by the evidence thus collected.
Why should potential terrorists or money launderers be protected from searches not specifically authorized by a judge — when the flying public, drivers on the road, people entering public buildings and now public school students are not so protected?
I certainly don’t condone the use of alcohol or drugs while driving, or working, or going to school. This is especially true for public transportation operators, airline pilots and other key positions. Unfortunately, drug tests do not necessarily measure how impaired the testee is, which is what we should really be checking. Drug tests do not determine when the substance was used — and off-duty use of alcohol and other drugs is another issue altogether. Using chemicals to make one feel better has been around throughout recorded history and will continue to be so. Modern medicine even encourages parents to give Ritalin to their rambunctious keiki while taking Prozac themselves. The war on drugs, unlike the war in Iraq, is unwinnable. Why don’t the anti-war folks hop onto that bandwagon?
Stan Godes
Hanalei
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HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 9:19 AM:
" Hello again TGI,
Please do not expect anyone to buy your theory of promotion or advertising and success program Waimea High School. We the former students there at one time in our lives actually do not care of local propaganda and success story with you or anyone there and their cars to show for as a success story.
Basically, I wrote to Waimea High School, and I suspect as always that this town is a ghost town. No offense but there is nothing to do there, just unemployed educators and former students.
I am not with their idea of success story, and I am not placing religion or anything like that on anyone, because as you know, this is still a free country and you can do anything you want. The whole idea of success just doesn't work well in a farm club setting and wanting to make it out or make it happen after you graduate in high school there to say the least.
Basically, some people I may know here, think some of you people still stuck there are still losers because you haven't made it happen for yourself or others, if you get my point staying home doing nothing.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
Please do not expect anyone to buy your theory of promotion or advertising and success program Waimea High School. We the former students there at one time in our lives actually do not care of local propaganda and success story with you or anyone there and their cars to show for as a success story.
Basically, I wrote to Waimea High School, and I suspect as always that this town is a ghost town. No offense but there is nothing to do there, just unemployed educators and former students.
I am not with their idea of success story, and I am not placing religion or anything like that on anyone, because as you know, this is still a free country and you can do anything you want. The whole idea of success just doesn't work well in a farm club setting and wanting to make it out or make it happen after you graduate in high school there to say the least.
Basically, some people I may know here, think some of you people still stuck there are still losers because you haven't made it happen for yourself or others, if you get my point staying home doing nothing.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:45 PM:
" First of all, let this be known, that these comments here are worthless and useless considering the topic being discussed. We found this topic a useless waist of time and money. This is from any intellectual interested reader. And yes, I am not associated with any former classmates there on Kauai also, for this matter alone.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:50 PM:
" I have seen alot of losers being mentioned in association to Waimea High School sports at UH Manoa. Might I add they are the one's who are delerious and a debachery to any level minded reader. These names are wide and long. And they run from 1979-1990 graduates trying grace the pages of Kauai and represent that school, outrageous. I for one, right now am putting all of them down for ever contemplating fame and popularity. We actually do not understand your fame and glory at Waimea High School.
This is in regards to your articles on the Waimea High School athletics and any department there.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
This is in regards to your articles on the Waimea High School athletics and any department there.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:55 PM:
" Losers I have mentioned that graced those pages are as follows:
Ross Kagawa 1984' UH baseball 1987' classmate of Percival Butay(cousin)
Edmond Acoba 1981'
Liko Pereira 1989 and someother school baseball?
Kui Souza 1988 Sacramento state baseball
Craig Ibara 1983' HPC of honolulu baseball
Keith Pigao - student information desk for all information here for class reunion
Lyman Lacro 1986, UH Volleyball 1987
Barry Magoay 1985, UH Volleyball 1989
These are just some of the names trying to gain popular votes via their own high School Waimea High School
even now. Unreal!
Best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
Ross Kagawa 1984' UH baseball 1987' classmate of Percival Butay(cousin)
Edmond Acoba 1981'
Liko Pereira 1989 and someother school baseball?
Kui Souza 1988 Sacramento state baseball
Craig Ibara 1983' HPC of honolulu baseball
Keith Pigao - student information desk for all information here for class reunion
Lyman Lacro 1986, UH Volleyball 1987
Barry Magoay 1985, UH Volleyball 1989
These are just some of the names trying to gain popular votes via their own high School Waimea High School
even now. Unreal!
Best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 12, 2009 1:08 PM:
" Hello again TGI,
This is me, Dean Kelly Sabado. Thank you for letting me comment on your articles there on the island. I just want to thank everyone agreeing with myself on who actually I meant, calling them losers in that town. Ha! Ha! Ha! I am a personal graduate of that high school but will proudly say if they keep up the good work in academics and life, will not be too ashamed of being associated with Waimea High School as an alumni.
Sorry, but there are others who felt this way! Here on the island of Honolulu and even the mainland. These names may have one time in their lives even mine represent the epitome of failure and laughs, and not success.
best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
This is me, Dean Kelly Sabado. Thank you for letting me comment on your articles there on the island. I just want to thank everyone agreeing with myself on who actually I meant, calling them losers in that town. Ha! Ha! Ha! I am a personal graduate of that high school but will proudly say if they keep up the good work in academics and life, will not be too ashamed of being associated with Waimea High School as an alumni.
Sorry, but there are others who felt this way! Here on the island of Honolulu and even the mainland. These names may have one time in their lives even mine represent the epitome of failure and laughs, and not success.
best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
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HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 9:08 AM:
RE: 2/11/2009 and the above topic
Can we cut out the "EXPLETIVE" here. Everyone knows if you are or were affiliated with high school at one time in your life in Waimea, Kauai, you would know that you do not place one of the three stooges willing to work at Kentucky fried chicken and place him at the vice principal's seat at Waimea High School. We all know that BOE and DOE played no roll in this nonsense of students being athletes then becomming success in the respected choice of degree and field like a BA degree. An example, you cannot put someone like a Pereira or even an Aaron Francisco from Kahuku High School, now former Arizona Cardinals NFL, as a BA candidtate after a prolific showing in sports. It just does not work that way. We all know that they cannot be serious placing academics after a 10 year assistant coach with a rediculous man/educator and/or coach if I might add like Tommy Rita of the 1980's and then expect him, Patrick Pereira to educate people in 2000's after being associated with dumb athletes all their life and now turn to academics. Now they educate people? Ha! What are we looking at here is basically a rediculous and dumber community than most perceived DOE standard base learning. Otherwise throw this article out already, alright?
best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "