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Letters for Monday, February 26, 2007
• Widespread evil
• >Emancipation proclamation
• The real slaves
• Where is this heading?
Widespread evil
Mr. Smith’s letter and his views, as expressed therein, were truly odious (“Slaves serve middle class,” Letters, Feb. 24). Ms. Rose’s response, however, was at best ill-advised (“The cheap TV is king,” Letters, Feb. 25).
To suggest that slavery was and is the exclusive provenance of a free-market economy is to conveniently forget Stalin’s Gulags and, more recently, Pol Pot’s forced relocation and enslavement of Cambodia’s middle class. I would remind Ms. Rose that evil, unfortunately, is not bound to any particular economic and/or political system.
Arnie Breyer
Kapa‘a
Emancipation proclamation
As a follow up to my opinion that “slavery” is a fact of life (“Slaves serve middle class,” Letters, Feb. 24), I would like to suggest a way to end slavery. If the use of robotics could be approved by all entities, for instance the unions of the country, then slaves could be replaced by these non-human slaves. So far it has been my understanding that unions fight against replacing workers with robots — you know those don’t pay dues.
Years ago when I was working six days week to make ends meet, a neighbor who was in college at the time said he would live to see the day when one would only have to work if one wanted to. That all things could be for the most part made by robots. For the most part, this could be true today. For example a lot of the work of producing an automobile is done by robots. Stores are using “self-service” check-out counters with four machines and a human doing the work of five.
In my “dim-witted” opinion, the only way for the middle class to enjoy the “nice” things in life — like a car, a home of their own, a DVD player, cable TV — is for the makers of these things that so many need, or rather want, is for them to be produced by slaves of some kind. Either human or non-human.
Or we could do as the communist or the socialist countries do: have everyone be a slave and only the leaders enjoy the fruits of the labor of all of the rest of the middle class, since there would be no other class.
Gordon “Doc” Smith
Kapa‘a
The real slaves
When running for his second term, President Lincoln faced a pro-slavery Democratic party, then as now the majority of Democrats believed that some humans were property and could be sold or destroyed at the owner’s whim. The slaves today are the embryos, unborn babies, that can be frozen, their stem cells removed and destroyed at the rate 80 per experiment, these experiments are supported by today’s Democratic platform as the Democratic party’s platform in the 1860s supported adult slavery.
History has judged President Lincoln as being the morally correct on the issue of adult slaves; as history will judge as morally correct President Bush on embryonic slavery.
Ed Smetana
Arlington Heights, Ill.
Where is this heading?
The articles and letters published in this newspaper regarding the recent case of animal abuse have done much to misinform, and maybe even confuse, the general public. Perhaps this is because people can make any claim or accusation in such a forum without needing to make them factual or meaningful.
Michael Mann (“The authority is there,” Letters, Feb. 16) referred to a county leash law as evidence when Thomas Iannucci posed the question, “Does the Humane Society have law enforcement abilities and arresting powers?” Each county has a leash law, none of them gives wardens enforcement power, per se. They are only “authorized” to pick up dogs that are untethered on public property. All other offenses involving animals are handled by the police. I suppose one could categorize the Humane Society as a “law-enforcement authority” over the stray dogs its wardens pick up, but clearly the question was not about authority over canines.
Mr. Mann goes on to say, “This is authorization granted to them by the county. So, the Humane Society does have enforcement capabilities, and I would bet this extends to issues of animal abuse as well, though I don’t know the specific code.” Interesting. Mr. Mann was able to cite the “stray dogs” law (Section 22-2) — which in fact is not pertinent to this case since the dogs were on private property — but is unable to cite a law authorizing the Humane Society as having “enforcement capabilities.” This is because there are none, and when there is a suspected offense, the Humane Society calls the police like any other citizen of our community. Alluding to non-existing laws is at best misleading.
The one I find most disturbing is the diatribe by Dennis Chaquette (“It’s a dog’s life,” Letters, Feb. 15), who begins by referring to the separation of church and state. Then he rhetorically asks, “Does Mr. Iannucci care about dogs that are abused and killed? ... Mr. Iannucci doesn’t say much of anything. All Mr. Iannucci does is defend Steve Cummings. Everyone likes to talk about how corrupt the Kaua‘i Police Department is. And then we get a police commissioner who writes a Guest Commentary like the one on Feb. 9.” Such disjointed questions and accusations, however meaningless, are nothing more than ad hominem attempts to muddy the water. Hopefully the public has enough clarity to see this. Suffice to say that Mr. Iannucci has constitutionally protected rights to his beliefs, as does every other person on the Police Commission. Mr. Chaquette’s attempting to somehow link KPD corruption to Mr. Iannucci is at best as meaningless and unsubstantiated, as are the rest of his accusatory remarks.
I love dogs and I detest animal abuse. I spend big bucks and lots of time on mine who is (perhaps not so) jokingly considered among the grandchildren of my family. He’s not a hunter, though he has gone hunting with me, preferring to chase sticks. But what’s frightening is that the outcome of all this is that Becky Rhoades, vis-à-vis the Humane Society, now has complete court-sanctioned access to the property where the dogs are being held, only limited to daylight hours. She has demanded a list of parameters which must be kept regarding the care of the animals. I fail to see the constitutionality of such an arrangement by even a law enforcement agency, let alone the Humane Society, which last year alone received over $500,000 from the county. Can Becky Rhoades now dictate what she believes to be required care by all dog owners? Clearly, the Humane Society considers the “lifestyle of a hunting dog” substandard compared to a “loving companion home” (as per their Web site). Is that so? Well, hunters beware, there’s a new sheriff in town, and we may all soon have to live up to her scrutinous demands.
Craig Contrades
Lihu‘e
• >Emancipation proclamation
• The real slaves
• Where is this heading?
Widespread evil
Mr. Smith’s letter and his views, as expressed therein, were truly odious (“Slaves serve middle class,” Letters, Feb. 24). Ms. Rose’s response, however, was at best ill-advised (“The cheap TV is king,” Letters, Feb. 25).
To suggest that slavery was and is the exclusive provenance of a free-market economy is to conveniently forget Stalin’s Gulags and, more recently, Pol Pot’s forced relocation and enslavement of Cambodia’s middle class. I would remind Ms. Rose that evil, unfortunately, is not bound to any particular economic and/or political system.
Arnie Breyer
Kapa‘a
Emancipation proclamation
As a follow up to my opinion that “slavery” is a fact of life (“Slaves serve middle class,” Letters, Feb. 24), I would like to suggest a way to end slavery. If the use of robotics could be approved by all entities, for instance the unions of the country, then slaves could be replaced by these non-human slaves. So far it has been my understanding that unions fight against replacing workers with robots — you know those don’t pay dues.
Years ago when I was working six days week to make ends meet, a neighbor who was in college at the time said he would live to see the day when one would only have to work if one wanted to. That all things could be for the most part made by robots. For the most part, this could be true today. For example a lot of the work of producing an automobile is done by robots. Stores are using “self-service” check-out counters with four machines and a human doing the work of five.
In my “dim-witted” opinion, the only way for the middle class to enjoy the “nice” things in life — like a car, a home of their own, a DVD player, cable TV — is for the makers of these things that so many need, or rather want, is for them to be produced by slaves of some kind. Either human or non-human.
Or we could do as the communist or the socialist countries do: have everyone be a slave and only the leaders enjoy the fruits of the labor of all of the rest of the middle class, since there would be no other class.
Gordon “Doc” Smith
Kapa‘a
The real slaves
When running for his second term, President Lincoln faced a pro-slavery Democratic party, then as now the majority of Democrats believed that some humans were property and could be sold or destroyed at the owner’s whim. The slaves today are the embryos, unborn babies, that can be frozen, their stem cells removed and destroyed at the rate 80 per experiment, these experiments are supported by today’s Democratic platform as the Democratic party’s platform in the 1860s supported adult slavery.
History has judged President Lincoln as being the morally correct on the issue of adult slaves; as history will judge as morally correct President Bush on embryonic slavery.
Ed Smetana
Arlington Heights, Ill.
Where is this heading?
The articles and letters published in this newspaper regarding the recent case of animal abuse have done much to misinform, and maybe even confuse, the general public. Perhaps this is because people can make any claim or accusation in such a forum without needing to make them factual or meaningful.
Michael Mann (“The authority is there,” Letters, Feb. 16) referred to a county leash law as evidence when Thomas Iannucci posed the question, “Does the Humane Society have law enforcement abilities and arresting powers?” Each county has a leash law, none of them gives wardens enforcement power, per se. They are only “authorized” to pick up dogs that are untethered on public property. All other offenses involving animals are handled by the police. I suppose one could categorize the Humane Society as a “law-enforcement authority” over the stray dogs its wardens pick up, but clearly the question was not about authority over canines.
Mr. Mann goes on to say, “This is authorization granted to them by the county. So, the Humane Society does have enforcement capabilities, and I would bet this extends to issues of animal abuse as well, though I don’t know the specific code.” Interesting. Mr. Mann was able to cite the “stray dogs” law (Section 22-2) — which in fact is not pertinent to this case since the dogs were on private property — but is unable to cite a law authorizing the Humane Society as having “enforcement capabilities.” This is because there are none, and when there is a suspected offense, the Humane Society calls the police like any other citizen of our community. Alluding to non-existing laws is at best misleading.
The one I find most disturbing is the diatribe by Dennis Chaquette (“It’s a dog’s life,” Letters, Feb. 15), who begins by referring to the separation of church and state. Then he rhetorically asks, “Does Mr. Iannucci care about dogs that are abused and killed? ... Mr. Iannucci doesn’t say much of anything. All Mr. Iannucci does is defend Steve Cummings. Everyone likes to talk about how corrupt the Kaua‘i Police Department is. And then we get a police commissioner who writes a Guest Commentary like the one on Feb. 9.” Such disjointed questions and accusations, however meaningless, are nothing more than ad hominem attempts to muddy the water. Hopefully the public has enough clarity to see this. Suffice to say that Mr. Iannucci has constitutionally protected rights to his beliefs, as does every other person on the Police Commission. Mr. Chaquette’s attempting to somehow link KPD corruption to Mr. Iannucci is at best as meaningless and unsubstantiated, as are the rest of his accusatory remarks.
I love dogs and I detest animal abuse. I spend big bucks and lots of time on mine who is (perhaps not so) jokingly considered among the grandchildren of my family. He’s not a hunter, though he has gone hunting with me, preferring to chase sticks. But what’s frightening is that the outcome of all this is that Becky Rhoades, vis-à-vis the Humane Society, now has complete court-sanctioned access to the property where the dogs are being held, only limited to daylight hours. She has demanded a list of parameters which must be kept regarding the care of the animals. I fail to see the constitutionality of such an arrangement by even a law enforcement agency, let alone the Humane Society, which last year alone received over $500,000 from the county. Can Becky Rhoades now dictate what she believes to be required care by all dog owners? Clearly, the Humane Society considers the “lifestyle of a hunting dog” substandard compared to a “loving companion home” (as per their Web site). Is that so? Well, hunters beware, there’s a new sheriff in town, and we may all soon have to live up to her scrutinous demands.
Craig Contrades
Lihu‘e
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HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 9:19 AM:
" Hello again TGI,
Please do not expect anyone to buy your theory of promotion or advertising and success program Waimea High School. We the former students there at one time in our lives actually do not care of local propaganda and success story with you or anyone there and their cars to show for as a success story.
Basically, I wrote to Waimea High School, and I suspect as always that this town is a ghost town. No offense but there is nothing to do there, just unemployed educators and former students.
I am not with their idea of success story, and I am not placing religion or anything like that on anyone, because as you know, this is still a free country and you can do anything you want. The whole idea of success just doesn't work well in a farm club setting and wanting to make it out or make it happen after you graduate in high school there to say the least.
Basically, some people I may know here, think some of you people still stuck there are still losers because you haven't made it happen for yourself or others, if you get my point staying home doing nothing.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
Please do not expect anyone to buy your theory of promotion or advertising and success program Waimea High School. We the former students there at one time in our lives actually do not care of local propaganda and success story with you or anyone there and their cars to show for as a success story.
Basically, I wrote to Waimea High School, and I suspect as always that this town is a ghost town. No offense but there is nothing to do there, just unemployed educators and former students.
I am not with their idea of success story, and I am not placing religion or anything like that on anyone, because as you know, this is still a free country and you can do anything you want. The whole idea of success just doesn't work well in a farm club setting and wanting to make it out or make it happen after you graduate in high school there to say the least.
Basically, some people I may know here, think some of you people still stuck there are still losers because you haven't made it happen for yourself or others, if you get my point staying home doing nothing.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:45 PM:
" First of all, let this be known, that these comments here are worthless and useless considering the topic being discussed. We found this topic a useless waist of time and money. This is from any intellectual interested reader. And yes, I am not associated with any former classmates there on Kauai also, for this matter alone.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:50 PM:
" I have seen alot of losers being mentioned in association to Waimea High School sports at UH Manoa. Might I add they are the one's who are delerious and a debachery to any level minded reader. These names are wide and long. And they run from 1979-1990 graduates trying grace the pages of Kauai and represent that school, outrageous. I for one, right now am putting all of them down for ever contemplating fame and popularity. We actually do not understand your fame and glory at Waimea High School.
This is in regards to your articles on the Waimea High School athletics and any department there.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
This is in regards to your articles on the Waimea High School athletics and any department there.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:55 PM:
" Losers I have mentioned that graced those pages are as follows:
Ross Kagawa 1984' UH baseball 1987' classmate of Percival Butay(cousin)
Edmond Acoba 1981'
Liko Pereira 1989 and someother school baseball?
Kui Souza 1988 Sacramento state baseball
Craig Ibara 1983' HPC of honolulu baseball
Keith Pigao - student information desk for all information here for class reunion
Lyman Lacro 1986, UH Volleyball 1987
Barry Magoay 1985, UH Volleyball 1989
These are just some of the names trying to gain popular votes via their own high School Waimea High School
even now. Unreal!
Best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
Ross Kagawa 1984' UH baseball 1987' classmate of Percival Butay(cousin)
Edmond Acoba 1981'
Liko Pereira 1989 and someother school baseball?
Kui Souza 1988 Sacramento state baseball
Craig Ibara 1983' HPC of honolulu baseball
Keith Pigao - student information desk for all information here for class reunion
Lyman Lacro 1986, UH Volleyball 1987
Barry Magoay 1985, UH Volleyball 1989
These are just some of the names trying to gain popular votes via their own high School Waimea High School
even now. Unreal!
Best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 12, 2009 1:08 PM:
" Hello again TGI,
This is me, Dean Kelly Sabado. Thank you for letting me comment on your articles there on the island. I just want to thank everyone agreeing with myself on who actually I meant, calling them losers in that town. Ha! Ha! Ha! I am a personal graduate of that high school but will proudly say if they keep up the good work in academics and life, will not be too ashamed of being associated with Waimea High School as an alumni.
Sorry, but there are others who felt this way! Here on the island of Honolulu and even the mainland. These names may have one time in their lives even mine represent the epitome of failure and laughs, and not success.
best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
This is me, Dean Kelly Sabado. Thank you for letting me comment on your articles there on the island. I just want to thank everyone agreeing with myself on who actually I meant, calling them losers in that town. Ha! Ha! Ha! I am a personal graduate of that high school but will proudly say if they keep up the good work in academics and life, will not be too ashamed of being associated with Waimea High School as an alumni.
Sorry, but there are others who felt this way! Here on the island of Honolulu and even the mainland. These names may have one time in their lives even mine represent the epitome of failure and laughs, and not success.
best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
fvr wrote on Sep 1, 2009 9:32 AM:
" fvr wrote on Aug 31, 2009 2:12 AM:
" My heart goes out to the family for their loss. Kauai grieves with you,and your family.
Kauai still grieves for the unsolved murder of, Sandra Mendoca.
Sandy was my sons classmate, and a very sweet, honest, and genuine young lady, even as a child.
Sandy would be 31 this year.
When my son heard she was murdered, at first he could not believe it.
Then he wept. He kept saying, no she can't be dead, not like that.
He went to St.Catherines School with her, from age 5, from Kindergarten.
He said, Sandy was the best, a model student, and liked by the entire class.
Sometimes she ignored him, when he got in an impish-rascal-prankster mode. He use to say, Sandy does'nt like me mom, cause I naughty. Yet even as a small child, he respected her sincere, moral character, exemplary behavior, and demeanor.
Till this day he is in disbelief, and schocked, that anyone would hurt, this beautiful young lady.
We both still pray for Sandra.
I pray for all who suffer from, violent acts against women, and children.
I offer my deepest sympathy, to the family, and will include you in my prayers.
God bless you, in your time of grief. I pray you find some peace. " "
" My heart goes out to the family for their loss. Kauai grieves with you,and your family.
Kauai still grieves for the unsolved murder of, Sandra Mendoca.
Sandy was my sons classmate, and a very sweet, honest, and genuine young lady, even as a child.
Sandy would be 31 this year.
When my son heard she was murdered, at first he could not believe it.
Then he wept. He kept saying, no she can't be dead, not like that.
He went to St.Catherines School with her, from age 5, from Kindergarten.
He said, Sandy was the best, a model student, and liked by the entire class.
Sometimes she ignored him, when he got in an impish-rascal-prankster mode. He use to say, Sandy does'nt like me mom, cause I naughty. Yet even as a small child, he respected her sincere, moral character, exemplary behavior, and demeanor.
Till this day he is in disbelief, and schocked, that anyone would hurt, this beautiful young lady.
We both still pray for Sandra.
I pray for all who suffer from, violent acts against women, and children.
I offer my deepest sympathy, to the family, and will include you in my prayers.
God bless you, in your time of grief. I pray you find some peace. " "
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HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 9:08 AM:
RE: 2/11/2009 and the above topic
Can we cut out the "EXPLETIVE" here. Everyone knows if you are or were affiliated with high school at one time in your life in Waimea, Kauai, you would know that you do not place one of the three stooges willing to work at Kentucky fried chicken and place him at the vice principal's seat at Waimea High School. We all know that BOE and DOE played no roll in this nonsense of students being athletes then becomming success in the respected choice of degree and field like a BA degree. An example, you cannot put someone like a Pereira or even an Aaron Francisco from Kahuku High School, now former Arizona Cardinals NFL, as a BA candidtate after a prolific showing in sports. It just does not work that way. We all know that they cannot be serious placing academics after a 10 year assistant coach with a rediculous man/educator and/or coach if I might add like Tommy Rita of the 1980's and then expect him, Patrick Pereira to educate people in 2000's after being associated with dumb athletes all their life and now turn to academics. Now they educate people? Ha! What are we looking at here is basically a rediculous and dumber community than most perceived DOE standard base learning. Otherwise throw this article out already, alright?
best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "