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Letters for Saturday, February 24, 2007
• Jordan Libre snub apology
• History of water
• Support HB234
• Numbers, hard living
• Slaves serve middle class
Jordan Libre snub apology
At a recent Kauai High School football banquet, one of our senior student athletes was not called up to receive his letter with the rest of the defensive line. “Nacho” Libre was called up later to receive recognition.
Understandably, the oversight caused feelings of disappointment and frustration for Jordan and his friends and family. For that, we sincerely apologize.
Jordan Libre’s accomplishments this year transcend the game of football. He worked hard and was at practice every day. He set a goal for himself and achieved it by losing 50 pounds. For a teenager in today’s society, surrounded by fast-food temptations, losing that amount of weight is nothing short of incredible.
Jordan Libre won his own championship, along with being a part of a championship team.
Our inadvertent error can never take that away from him.
Kelii Morgado, head coach
Kauai High School football
History of water
I have just read in The Garden Island newspaper, Feb. 14, that the Planning Commission has turned down the right of Mr. Satterfield to use the water from the Eric A. Knudsen Trust lands for his bottling of pure water.
This water flows from tunnels that were constructed by Koloa Plantation, and are located on the Ahupua‘a of Koloa, which extends from Kahili Mountain to the sea, and from Weliweli to Lawa‘i. This area is not ceded land. It was purchased from the Hawaiians.
King Lot Kamehameha sold the Ahupua‘a of Koloa on May 1, 1863, to Mr. Robert C. Wyllie. After Mr. Wyllie passed away, his estate sold the land in 1867 to Mr. Ira Richardson. My grandmother, Mrs. Anne Knudsen, purchased the land from Mr. Richardson on March 1, 1872.
I would like to refer you to pages 63 and 64 of the book Koloa Plantation, 1835-1935, by Mr. Arthur C. Alexander. This historical account is available at the Kaua‘i Museum. The details of these transactions are recorded on pages 63 and 64.
The tunnels were dug back in 1898 by Anton Krupp, a manager of Koloa Plantation, for irrigation. When not enough water flowed, they were abandoned until about 1920, when the Department of Health charged that better water was needed for the plantation employees. So a pipe was installed and the water supplied to the plantation employees, as well as Koloa town and Po‘ipu, until the county had wells of its own.
Mr. Satterfields right to operate his small business should be reinstalled.
Knudsen Toulon
Koloa
Support HB234
Because Hawai‘i usually votes Democrat in presidential elections, neither party bothers to poll, visit, organize, advertise, or worry about the state’s concerns.
Instead, candidates concentrate on a handful of closely divided battleground states, where active campaigning can swing a wavering bloc of electoral votes.
This problem may be corrected by state-level action. The U.S. Constitution grants the states the exclusive and plenary power to award their electoral votes in any manner “as the Legislature thereof may direct.”
Under HB 234 currently pending in the state Legislature, the presidential candidate receiving the most popular votes in all 50 states would be guaranteed enough electoral votes to become President. This legislation would only go into effect when states representing a majority of the people of the country pass identical laws. This bill enables the states to create a system in which every vote is equally important throughout the United States.
John Kozo
Los Altos, Calif.
Numbers, hard living
This letter is in response to “Media Voices” (“$7.25? A truly bad idea,” Forum, Jan. 25) by Donald Lambro.
“The average family income of a minimum wage earner is almost $50,000.”
What?
For a standard 40-hour work week and current U.S. minimum wage of $5.25 per hour, the worker would earn $10,920 per year. If there are two members in the family working at minimum wage, their family income would be only $21,840, not even half the $50,000 family income claimed by Lambro.
To achieve Lambro’s $50,000 “family income” (assuming two wage earners) with one minimum wage earner making $10,920, the other wage earner would have to make $39,080, or about $18.79 per hour.
Articles like this make you doubt any of the numbers from: “Employment Policies Institute”; “Dr.David Neumark, U.C. Irvine”; “James Chirk, Heritage Foundation”; or “Donald Lambro, The Washington Times.”
One of the goals of the newly elected Democratic majority in Congress is a $7.25 per hour minimum wage. For a family with two wage earners making the new minimum wage of $7.25 per hour would be $30,160, still far from Lambro’s $50,000.
For a single wage earner in the family, even the new $7.25 (in two years) minimum wage hovers around the poverty level at $15,080.
Charles Trembath
Lihu‘e
Slaves serve middle class
There is a fact of life that many people seem not to understand. The fact is that slavery is alive and well. As it should be. If everything we buy was made by union members/workers, the middle class, including the union members, would not be able to afford to buy anything but the absolute necessities. Even the old manuscripts like the Bible talk about slaves. The Bible says to “Treat one’s slaves well.” Currently our slaves are the illegals from south of our border and other peoples like the Chinese.
Would I want to be a slave? “No way.”
Am I glad there are slaves? “You bet.”
So if the middle class of the world is going to enjoy the benefits of wealth without having wealth, slaves are necessary.
Good or bad, right or wrong is not the question. That’s just the way it is. Stop to think about what things, everything, would cost if all things were produced by union members, unless robots were used to replace the “slaves.” Generally the unions’ fight against the replacement of union members by robotics.
Oh, and by the way, Wal-Mart employees are not slaves. They applied for the job, and with 2 percent unemployment, there are plenty of places that would hire them if they were unhappy with the pay or working conditions at Wal-Mart. I would love to see a side-by-side comparison of the wages and benefits of a Wal-Mart employee versus a Safeway or any other unionized store employee.
Gordon “Doc” Smith
Kapa‘a
• History of water
• Support HB234
• Numbers, hard living
• Slaves serve middle class
Jordan Libre snub apology
At a recent Kauai High School football banquet, one of our senior student athletes was not called up to receive his letter with the rest of the defensive line. “Nacho” Libre was called up later to receive recognition.
Understandably, the oversight caused feelings of disappointment and frustration for Jordan and his friends and family. For that, we sincerely apologize.
Jordan Libre’s accomplishments this year transcend the game of football. He worked hard and was at practice every day. He set a goal for himself and achieved it by losing 50 pounds. For a teenager in today’s society, surrounded by fast-food temptations, losing that amount of weight is nothing short of incredible.
Jordan Libre won his own championship, along with being a part of a championship team.
Our inadvertent error can never take that away from him.
Kelii Morgado, head coach
Kauai High School football
History of water
I have just read in The Garden Island newspaper, Feb. 14, that the Planning Commission has turned down the right of Mr. Satterfield to use the water from the Eric A. Knudsen Trust lands for his bottling of pure water.
This water flows from tunnels that were constructed by Koloa Plantation, and are located on the Ahupua‘a of Koloa, which extends from Kahili Mountain to the sea, and from Weliweli to Lawa‘i. This area is not ceded land. It was purchased from the Hawaiians.
King Lot Kamehameha sold the Ahupua‘a of Koloa on May 1, 1863, to Mr. Robert C. Wyllie. After Mr. Wyllie passed away, his estate sold the land in 1867 to Mr. Ira Richardson. My grandmother, Mrs. Anne Knudsen, purchased the land from Mr. Richardson on March 1, 1872.
I would like to refer you to pages 63 and 64 of the book Koloa Plantation, 1835-1935, by Mr. Arthur C. Alexander. This historical account is available at the Kaua‘i Museum. The details of these transactions are recorded on pages 63 and 64.
The tunnels were dug back in 1898 by Anton Krupp, a manager of Koloa Plantation, for irrigation. When not enough water flowed, they were abandoned until about 1920, when the Department of Health charged that better water was needed for the plantation employees. So a pipe was installed and the water supplied to the plantation employees, as well as Koloa town and Po‘ipu, until the county had wells of its own.
Mr. Satterfields right to operate his small business should be reinstalled.
Knudsen Toulon
Koloa
Support HB234
Because Hawai‘i usually votes Democrat in presidential elections, neither party bothers to poll, visit, organize, advertise, or worry about the state’s concerns.
Instead, candidates concentrate on a handful of closely divided battleground states, where active campaigning can swing a wavering bloc of electoral votes.
This problem may be corrected by state-level action. The U.S. Constitution grants the states the exclusive and plenary power to award their electoral votes in any manner “as the Legislature thereof may direct.”
Under HB 234 currently pending in the state Legislature, the presidential candidate receiving the most popular votes in all 50 states would be guaranteed enough electoral votes to become President. This legislation would only go into effect when states representing a majority of the people of the country pass identical laws. This bill enables the states to create a system in which every vote is equally important throughout the United States.
John Kozo
Los Altos, Calif.
Numbers, hard living
This letter is in response to “Media Voices” (“$7.25? A truly bad idea,” Forum, Jan. 25) by Donald Lambro.
“The average family income of a minimum wage earner is almost $50,000.”
What?
For a standard 40-hour work week and current U.S. minimum wage of $5.25 per hour, the worker would earn $10,920 per year. If there are two members in the family working at minimum wage, their family income would be only $21,840, not even half the $50,000 family income claimed by Lambro.
To achieve Lambro’s $50,000 “family income” (assuming two wage earners) with one minimum wage earner making $10,920, the other wage earner would have to make $39,080, or about $18.79 per hour.
Articles like this make you doubt any of the numbers from: “Employment Policies Institute”; “Dr.David Neumark, U.C. Irvine”; “James Chirk, Heritage Foundation”; or “Donald Lambro, The Washington Times.”
One of the goals of the newly elected Democratic majority in Congress is a $7.25 per hour minimum wage. For a family with two wage earners making the new minimum wage of $7.25 per hour would be $30,160, still far from Lambro’s $50,000.
For a single wage earner in the family, even the new $7.25 (in two years) minimum wage hovers around the poverty level at $15,080.
Charles Trembath
Lihu‘e
Slaves serve middle class
There is a fact of life that many people seem not to understand. The fact is that slavery is alive and well. As it should be. If everything we buy was made by union members/workers, the middle class, including the union members, would not be able to afford to buy anything but the absolute necessities. Even the old manuscripts like the Bible talk about slaves. The Bible says to “Treat one’s slaves well.” Currently our slaves are the illegals from south of our border and other peoples like the Chinese.
Would I want to be a slave? “No way.”
Am I glad there are slaves? “You bet.”
So if the middle class of the world is going to enjoy the benefits of wealth without having wealth, slaves are necessary.
Good or bad, right or wrong is not the question. That’s just the way it is. Stop to think about what things, everything, would cost if all things were produced by union members, unless robots were used to replace the “slaves.” Generally the unions’ fight against the replacement of union members by robotics.
Oh, and by the way, Wal-Mart employees are not slaves. They applied for the job, and with 2 percent unemployment, there are plenty of places that would hire them if they were unhappy with the pay or working conditions at Wal-Mart. I would love to see a side-by-side comparison of the wages and benefits of a Wal-Mart employee versus a Safeway or any other unionized store employee.
Gordon “Doc” Smith
Kapa‘a
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HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 9:19 AM:
" Hello again TGI,
Please do not expect anyone to buy your theory of promotion or advertising and success program Waimea High School. We the former students there at one time in our lives actually do not care of local propaganda and success story with you or anyone there and their cars to show for as a success story.
Basically, I wrote to Waimea High School, and I suspect as always that this town is a ghost town. No offense but there is nothing to do there, just unemployed educators and former students.
I am not with their idea of success story, and I am not placing religion or anything like that on anyone, because as you know, this is still a free country and you can do anything you want. The whole idea of success just doesn't work well in a farm club setting and wanting to make it out or make it happen after you graduate in high school there to say the least.
Basically, some people I may know here, think some of you people still stuck there are still losers because you haven't made it happen for yourself or others, if you get my point staying home doing nothing.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
Please do not expect anyone to buy your theory of promotion or advertising and success program Waimea High School. We the former students there at one time in our lives actually do not care of local propaganda and success story with you or anyone there and their cars to show for as a success story.
Basically, I wrote to Waimea High School, and I suspect as always that this town is a ghost town. No offense but there is nothing to do there, just unemployed educators and former students.
I am not with their idea of success story, and I am not placing religion or anything like that on anyone, because as you know, this is still a free country and you can do anything you want. The whole idea of success just doesn't work well in a farm club setting and wanting to make it out or make it happen after you graduate in high school there to say the least.
Basically, some people I may know here, think some of you people still stuck there are still losers because you haven't made it happen for yourself or others, if you get my point staying home doing nothing.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:45 PM:
" First of all, let this be known, that these comments here are worthless and useless considering the topic being discussed. We found this topic a useless waist of time and money. This is from any intellectual interested reader. And yes, I am not associated with any former classmates there on Kauai also, for this matter alone.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:50 PM:
" I have seen alot of losers being mentioned in association to Waimea High School sports at UH Manoa. Might I add they are the one's who are delerious and a debachery to any level minded reader. These names are wide and long. And they run from 1979-1990 graduates trying grace the pages of Kauai and represent that school, outrageous. I for one, right now am putting all of them down for ever contemplating fame and popularity. We actually do not understand your fame and glory at Waimea High School.
This is in regards to your articles on the Waimea High School athletics and any department there.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
This is in regards to your articles on the Waimea High School athletics and any department there.
Sincerely,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 1:55 PM:
" Losers I have mentioned that graced those pages are as follows:
Ross Kagawa 1984' UH baseball 1987' classmate of Percival Butay(cousin)
Edmond Acoba 1981'
Liko Pereira 1989 and someother school baseball?
Kui Souza 1988 Sacramento state baseball
Craig Ibara 1983' HPC of honolulu baseball
Keith Pigao - student information desk for all information here for class reunion
Lyman Lacro 1986, UH Volleyball 1987
Barry Magoay 1985, UH Volleyball 1989
These are just some of the names trying to gain popular votes via their own high School Waimea High School
even now. Unreal!
Best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
Ross Kagawa 1984' UH baseball 1987' classmate of Percival Butay(cousin)
Edmond Acoba 1981'
Liko Pereira 1989 and someother school baseball?
Kui Souza 1988 Sacramento state baseball
Craig Ibara 1983' HPC of honolulu baseball
Keith Pigao - student information desk for all information here for class reunion
Lyman Lacro 1986, UH Volleyball 1987
Barry Magoay 1985, UH Volleyball 1989
These are just some of the names trying to gain popular votes via their own high School Waimea High School
even now. Unreal!
Best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
HiKauai wrote on Feb 12, 2009 1:08 PM:
" Hello again TGI,
This is me, Dean Kelly Sabado. Thank you for letting me comment on your articles there on the island. I just want to thank everyone agreeing with myself on who actually I meant, calling them losers in that town. Ha! Ha! Ha! I am a personal graduate of that high school but will proudly say if they keep up the good work in academics and life, will not be too ashamed of being associated with Waimea High School as an alumni.
Sorry, but there are others who felt this way! Here on the island of Honolulu and even the mainland. These names may have one time in their lives even mine represent the epitome of failure and laughs, and not success.
best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
This is me, Dean Kelly Sabado. Thank you for letting me comment on your articles there on the island. I just want to thank everyone agreeing with myself on who actually I meant, calling them losers in that town. Ha! Ha! Ha! I am a personal graduate of that high school but will proudly say if they keep up the good work in academics and life, will not be too ashamed of being associated with Waimea High School as an alumni.
Sorry, but there are others who felt this way! Here on the island of Honolulu and even the mainland. These names may have one time in their lives even mine represent the epitome of failure and laughs, and not success.
best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "
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HiKauai wrote on Feb 11, 2009 9:08 AM:
RE: 2/11/2009 and the above topic
Can we cut out the "EXPLETIVE" here. Everyone knows if you are or were affiliated with high school at one time in your life in Waimea, Kauai, you would know that you do not place one of the three stooges willing to work at Kentucky fried chicken and place him at the vice principal's seat at Waimea High School. We all know that BOE and DOE played no roll in this nonsense of students being athletes then becomming success in the respected choice of degree and field like a BA degree. An example, you cannot put someone like a Pereira or even an Aaron Francisco from Kahuku High School, now former Arizona Cardinals NFL, as a BA candidtate after a prolific showing in sports. It just does not work that way. We all know that they cannot be serious placing academics after a 10 year assistant coach with a rediculous man/educator and/or coach if I might add like Tommy Rita of the 1980's and then expect him, Patrick Pereira to educate people in 2000's after being associated with dumb athletes all their life and now turn to academics. Now they educate people? Ha! What are we looking at here is basically a rediculous and dumber community than most perceived DOE standard base learning. Otherwise throw this article out already, alright?
best regards,
Dean Kelly Sabado "